Swivel Under Construction!

[ebozyn]

If there is anyone who has tried to make a metal Based Ball Hook Swivel out of any of these other Metal based link and U-Bolt Swivels I Would like any info i can get.

I realize that some of the swivel bases in the photos may be the same, or very similar.

What i would like to know is:

1. Are there one of these, or some other swivels that require no boring of the Center hole to accommodate the steel ball? ( i doubt a person could be that lucky, but hey... someone may have found an easier way)

2. Which of these swivels may require the least amount of boring for the Jumpcannon size steel ball to fit properly? (JC's steel ball is pretty much the same size as the original Everlast Plastic Ball)

3. Are there any of these swivels that will NOT work for making a steel based metal ball hook swivel?

4. Maybe there is a metal based swivel that will work well for this, that i haven't listed here, If so, what swivel would that be?



I want to have a Click-itty Clank sounding swivel around, with a nice amount of volume, but not too loud. I noticed that they really sound nice in the videos. I really enjoy that sound.

Any Info would be greatly appreciated.

[ebozyn]

what are you using now for your swivel. the everlast plastic base with the JC steel ball & hook ? ...ralph

On my board right now, and for the last few months is the Everlast plastic base, with the plastic ball.

But i have Two of the Everlast plastic swivels. The other one (the one in the photo) has the JC steel ball.

Both sets of hooks and eyelets are from the everlast swivels, they fit perfectly with the JC steel ball.

JC did a very smart job to make the steel balls and eyelets that he builds, work smoothly with the everlast parts.

[Speedbag]

yah i haven't hit in over two weeks. but i was hitting more at night and i changed to the plastic everlast from the powermill swivel, But didn't like the all plastic ball so i switched out the plastic ball and used the powermill steel ball & hook. it works way nicer than the stock one. but i will go back to the powermill when i don't hit so late at night. i love that clackity clack sound the powermill makes :-) ...ralph (edit) i also tapped (cutt more threads) the threads on the powermill eyebolt to get it closer to the base.

interesting Idea. You must have the tools and know how to do that. not me....(sad)

And the original thread Idea is interesting concept. I have never considered putting a metal (or plastic) ball into the other base housings. Actually I did with the plastic ball and the curve of the ball was too large and stuck out above the housing. this was a standard plastic ball into a standard Everlast Ballhook housing though (pic below). This won't work because the ball above the housing will not allow the housing to lay flat against the board. Perhaps the other swivel housings are deeper and will allow this to work on other models.

[Chrysler]

Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!

No planning or measuring just quickly made but i did use everlast hole centres.



Kind Regards

[paranday]

Good looking unit. I'd like one in copper.

[MsDeville]

Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!

No planning or measuring just quickly made but i did use everlast hole centres.


Kind Regards

INGENIOUS! Thanks for this contribution... I'll be showing this to my personal manufacturer – "Trainer Raul."

[Speedbag]

Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!

No planning or measuring just quickly made but i did use everlast hole centres.



Kind Regards

Where is the metal ball and eyehook from?

[Chrysler]

Good looking unit. I'd like one in copper.

Nooo... it would need cleaning weekly


Where is the metal ball and eyehook from?

The eyehook is the one from the plastic Everlast Unit. The Ball is the head of a prosthetic hip ..... You did ask!

Kind Regards

[Chrysler]

...i like it. nice swivel, i've been thinking along time now of making my own swivel kinda like that where you have a (seal bushing) so the base and the eyebolt shaft doesn't wear out, you just replace the bushing when it wears out also have a zerk type fitting on the side of the base to lube it and keep things running smooth. but not having the machinist tools so it won't happen. so where does that S hook hang compared to the stantard everlast swivel is it lower or higher on the board ? smaller or bigger arc ? ...ralph (edit) the bushing also solves the problem that everlast had with the metal micro chips getting into your eyes.

-No need for zerk with PTFE

-Will be many a year before wear becomes an issue ( i think)

-It hangs the same as original, but i plan on recessing it into the board a bit.

Cheers

PS Love this site BTW. Been following it a long time.Fantastic talent here.

Nige

[ebozyn]

Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!

No planning or measuring just quickly made but i did use everlast hole centres.



Kind Regards

Cool Creation. Where Did you Find the Ball For That Swivel?

I Don't Know If This Happens To Any Of You... But...
Every Time i Go to A hardware store, or Department Store Of Any Kind, Even When I'm In Toy Stores I'm Looking For Things I Could Use For Swivel Parts... I think I'm Going Mad!!!

[Tim]

Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!


Kind Regards

Looks nice... video please

[ebozyn]

Looks nice... video please

I second that.

I would love to hear that swivel. Hear the click-itty click-itty clack-itty click

[Speedbag]

Cool Creation. Where Did you Find the Ball For That Swivel?

I Don't Know If This Happens To Any Of You... But...
Every Time i Go to A hardware store, or Department Store Of Any Kind, Even When I'm In Toy Stores I'm Looking For Things I Could Use For Swivel Parts... I think I'm Going Mad!!!

No, you are NOT going mad. It's just all things speed bag getting deeper into your bones.
The condition is not fatal, but can last for many years and many hours under the board.

least, that's what I've heard

[PDXBAGGER]

Cool Creation. Where Did you Find the Ball For That Swivel?

I Don't Know If This Happens To Any Of You... But...
Every Time i Go to A hardware store, or Department Store Of Any Kind, Even When I'm In Toy Stores I'm Looking For Things I Could Use For Swivel Parts... I think I'm Going Mad!!!

I know what you mean! I often find myself slowly walking by sidewalk cafe tables. 30" round, perfect for a drum...since taking up bagging, I look at all surfaces differently these days. I fantasize about cutting drums out of all sorts of things.... nothing is safe.

[PDXBAGGER]

Great Job on that swivel Chrysler! that thing looks incredible!

PDX