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  • ebozyn
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Oct 2010
    • 500

    Swivel Under Construction!

    If there is anyone who has tried to make a metal Based Ball Hook Swivel out of any of these other Metal based link and U-Bolt Swivels I Would like any info i can get.

    I realize that some of the swivel bases in the photos may be the same, or very similar.

    What i would like to know is:

    1. Are there one of these, or some other swivels that require no boring of the Center hole to accommodate the steel ball? ( i doubt a person could be that lucky, but hey... someone may have found an easier way)

    2. Which of these swivels may require the least amount of boring for the Jumpcannon size steel ball to fit properly? (JC's steel ball is pretty much the same size as the original Everlast Plastic Ball)

    3. Are there any of these swivels that will NOT work for making a steel based metal ball hook swivel?

    4. Maybe there is a metal based swivel that will work well for this, that i haven't listed here, If so, what swivel would that be?



    I want to have a Click-itty Clank sounding swivel around, with a nice amount of volume, but not too loud. I noticed that they really sound nice in the videos. I really enjoy that sound.

    Any Info would be greatly appreciated.
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  • ebozyn
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Oct 2010
    • 500

    #2
    Originally posted by ventanakaz
    what are you using now for your swivel. the everlast plastic base with the JC steel ball & hook ? ...ralph

    On my board right now, and for the last few months is the Everlast plastic base, with the plastic ball.

    But i have Two of the Everlast plastic swivels. The other one (the one in the photo) has the JC steel ball.

    Both sets of hooks and eyelets are from the everlast swivels, they fit perfectly with the JC steel ball.

    JC did a very smart job to make the steel balls and eyelets that he builds, work smoothly with the everlast parts.
    Last edited by ebozyn; 10-21-2011, 08:39 PM.

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    • Speedbag
      Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

      • Feb 2006
      • 7119

      #3
      Originally posted by ventanakaz
      yah i haven't hit in over two weeks. but i was hitting more at night and i changed to the plastic everlast from the powermill swivel, But didn't like the all plastic ball so i switched out the plastic ball and used the powermill steel ball & hook. it works way nicer than the stock one. but i will go back to the powermill when i don't hit so late at night. i love that clackity clack sound the powermill makes :-) ...ralph (edit) i also tapped (cutt more threads) the threads on the powermill eyebolt to get it closer to the base.
      interesting Idea. You must have the tools and know how to do that. not me....(sad)

      And the original thread Idea is interesting concept. I have never considered putting a metal (or plastic) ball into the other base housings. Actually I did with the plastic ball and the curve of the ball was too large and stuck out above the housing. this was a standard plastic ball into a standard Everlast Ballhook housing though (pic below). This won't work because the ball above the housing will not allow the housing to lay flat against the board. Perhaps the other swivel housings are deeper and will allow this to work on other models.
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      • Chrysler
        Speed Bag Trainee
        • Oct 2010
        • 8

        #4
        Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

        The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

        The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!

        No planning or measuring just quickly made but i did use everlast hole centres.



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        • paranday
          Speed Bag Guru
          • Sep 2009
          • 2515

          #5
          Good looking unit. I'd like one in copper.

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          • MsDeville
            Senior Member

            • Oct 2009
            • 1301

            #6
            Originally posted by Chrysler View Post
            Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

            The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

            The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!

            No planning or measuring just quickly made but i did use everlast hole centres.


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            • Speedbag
              Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

              • Feb 2006
              • 7119

              #7
              Originally posted by Chrysler View Post
              Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

              The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

              The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!

              No planning or measuring just quickly made but i did use everlast hole centres.



              Kind Regards
              Where is the metal ball and eyehook from?
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              • Chrysler
                Speed Bag Trainee
                • Oct 2010
                • 8

                #8
                Originally posted by paranday View Post
                Good looking unit. I'd like one in copper.
                Nooo... it would need cleaning weekly


                Where is the metal ball and eyehook from?

                The eyehook is the one from the plastic Everlast Unit. The Ball is the head of a prosthetic hip ..... You did ask!

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                • Chrysler
                  Speed Bag Trainee
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 8

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ventanakaz
                  ...i like it. nice swivel, i've been thinking along time now of making my own swivel kinda like that where you have a (seal bushing) so the base and the eyebolt shaft doesn't wear out, you just replace the bushing when it wears out also have a zerk type fitting on the side of the base to lube it and keep things running smooth. but not having the machinist tools so it won't happen. so where does that S hook hang compared to the stantard everlast swivel is it lower or higher on the board ? smaller or bigger arc ? ...ralph (edit) the bushing also solves the problem that everlast had with the metal micro chips getting into your eyes.
                  -No need for zerk with PTFE

                  -Will be many a year before wear becomes an issue ( i think)

                  -It hangs the same as original, but i plan on recessing it into the board a bit.

                  Cheers

                  PS Love this site BTW. Been following it a long time.Fantastic talent here.

                  Nige

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                  • ebozyn
                    Speed Bag Guru
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 500

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chrysler View Post
                    Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

                    The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

                    The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!

                    No planning or measuring just quickly made but i did use everlast hole centres.



                    Kind Regards
                    Cool Creation. Where Did you Find the Ball For That Swivel?

                    I Don't Know If This Happens To Any Of You... But...
                    Every Time i Go to A hardware store, or Department Store Of Any Kind, Even When I'm In Toy Stores I'm Looking For Things I Could Use For Swivel Parts... I think I'm Going Mad!!!

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                    • Tim
                      Administrator and Founder of SpeedBagForum.com


                      • Jan 2006
                      • 3454

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Chrysler View Post
                      Not sure if this helps but i used the 'plastic swivel' hook only to make my own swivel.

                      The original ball flew out after 20 mins and after a repair of that the plastic base eventually wore rough and was poor.

                      The 'new' base is an old piece of brass that i had in scrap box ,a polished and hardened ball runs in a PTFE (teflon) bush ....... SILKY SMOOOOTH!


                      Kind Regards
                      Looks nice... video please

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                      • ebozyn
                        Speed Bag Guru
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 500

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tim View Post
                        Looks nice... video please
                        I second that.

                        I would love to hear that swivel. Hear the click-itty click-itty clack-itty click

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                        • Speedbag
                          Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                          • Feb 2006
                          • 7119

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ebozyn View Post
                          Cool Creation. Where Did you Find the Ball For That Swivel?

                          I Don't Know If This Happens To Any Of You... But...
                          Every Time i Go to A hardware store, or Department Store Of Any Kind, Even When I'm In Toy Stores I'm Looking For Things I Could Use For Swivel Parts... I think I'm Going Mad!!!
                          No, you are NOT going mad. It's just all things speed bag getting deeper into your bones.
                          The condition is not fatal, but can last for many years and many hours under the board.

                          least, that's what I've heard

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                          Put a little Rhythm in YOUR workout!
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                          The Quest Continues...
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                          • PDXBAGGER
                            Speed Bag Trainee
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 11

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ebozyn View Post
                            Cool Creation. Where Did you Find the Ball For That Swivel?

                            I Don't Know If This Happens To Any Of You... But...
                            Every Time i Go to A hardware store, or Department Store Of Any Kind, Even When I'm In Toy Stores I'm Looking For Things I Could Use For Swivel Parts... I think I'm Going Mad!!!
                            I know what you mean! I often find myself slowly walking by sidewalk cafe tables. 30" round, perfect for a drum...since taking up bagging, I look at all surfaces differently these days. I fantasize about cutting drums out of all sorts of things.... nothing is safe.

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                            • PDXBAGGER
                              Speed Bag Trainee
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 11

                              #15
                              Great Job on that swivel Chrysler! that thing looks incredible!

                              PDX

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