Vintage New York Everlast speed bag swivels

[Speedbag]

BTW those platforms back in the day had 3 foot drums and those guys would hit on big bags like the one i'm selling in these pictures, it's a shame that people don't realize the benefits of hitting on big bags, There was a particular person on YouTube saying that you can't do bible bagging on big bags, That guy doesn't know what he was talking about, Where do you think bible bagging came from, it came from a time period where they hand Fancy baggers in vaudeville days....

Exactly! Today's "Bible Stylers" were yesteryears "Fancy Baggers"


SpeedBagHistory

https://speedbagcentral.com/speed-bag-history/

The Best Book on Bag Punching by Harry Seeback (1913)

https://books.google.com/books?id=IyoxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA54&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

1904

https://archive.org/details/bagpunchingforhe00dunc/page/26/mode/2up

1913

https://archive.org/details/boxinghowtotrai00aust/page/120/mode/2up

We haven't invented any new moves.... just resurrected them.

[ventanakaz]

Exactly! Today's "Bible Stylers" were yesteryears "Fancy Baggers"


SpeedBagHistory

https://speedbagcentral.com/speed-bag-history/

The Best Book on Bag Punching by Harry Seeback (1913)

https://books.google.com/books?id=IyoxAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA54&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

1904

https://archive.org/details/bagpunchingforhe00dunc/page/26/mode/2up

1913

https://archive.org/details/boxinghowtotrai00aust/page/120/mode/2up

We haven't invented any new moves.... just resurrected them.

Harry Seeback was Amazing, i can't remember was there any films on him Bagging ?

[Speedbag]

Harry Seeback was Amazing, i can't remember was there any films on him Bagging ?

I've never seen any but this was a classic.....

https://speedbagforum.com/forums/forum/history/5951-harry-and-harriet-seeback-1926

[ventanakaz]

I've never seen any but this was a classic.....

https://speedbagforum.com/forums/forum/history/5951-harry-and-harriet-seeback-1926

Nice, all good information and pictures, Love it. There was a time period when i wasn't on the forum because when paranday posted the photos and with what you guys posted, i sure would've make a comment or two, Those vaudeville days were magical lots of unbelievable talent from the men and women of that time

[penina]

BTW those platforms back in the day had 3 foot drums and those guys would hit on big bags like the one i'm selling in these pictures, it's a shame that people don't realize the benefits of hitting on big bags, There was a particular person on YouTube saying that you can't do bible bagging on big bags, That guy doesn't know what he was talking about, Where do you think bible bagging came from, it came from a time period where they had Fancy baggers during the vaudeville days.

Very cool, thanks for all this info! I'd like to set it up as authentically as possible. A big bag sounds like it would be fun.

[ventanakaz]

Very cool, thanks for all this info! I'd like to set it up as authentically as possible. A big bag sounds like it would be fun.

I've never seen the original rope swivels that came with these platforms, I've only seen them from where i posted the pictures from the catalog above, Sorry to say but you will probably never find them because there were probably updated with more modern swivels, like the Ball-Hook swivels, other swivels i seen on them were Chainlink and U-bolt, But the all metal ball-hook is a more pure swivel to where you can hit from all sides and angles of the bag without having the limitations of the chainlink or the u-bolt swivel, Plus what other people don't realize and from years of my experience of hitting on the chainlink & u-bolt (Side Bar/i hit on the chainlink for alot of years and the u-bolt for a short time before i just threw the u-bolt in the garage can) the chainlink would kink up when i would hit with a true boxing style that included boxing the bag with combinations (not circle hammer fist) So whenever i threw a straight punch then to a hook punch, the chainlink couldn't handle that fast extreme change of angles so it was frustrating, and that is because of the Mechanical design of the swivel, Also the bag only hit on two panels of the bag, the front and back, Wearing out the bag prematurely, The other panels of the bag never hit the drum, With the metal ball-hook you can hit from all sides and angles of the bag with no problem plus all the bags panels would hit the drum, Making the bag last longer.

[ventanakaz]

Got Another small batch of Everlast New York Swivels done and ready to Sell, i just gotta get one more of my Ball-hook Assemblies done and installed in the fourth swivel.

[ventanakaz]

One more pic.

[Speedbag]

I've never seen the original rope swivels that came with these platforms, I've only seen them from where i posted the pictures from the catalog above, Sorry to say but you will probably never find them because there were probably updated with more modern swivels, like the Ball-Hook swivels, other swivels i seen on them were Chainlink and U-bolt, But the all metal ball-hook is a more pure swivel to where you can hit from all sides and angles of the bag without having the limitations of the chainlink or the u-bolt swivel, Plus what other people don't realize and from years of my experience of hitting on the chainlink & u-bolt (Side Bar/i hit on the chainlink for alot of years and the u-bolt for a short time before i just threw the u-bolt in the garage can) the chainlink would kink up when i would hit with a true boxing style that included boxing the bag with combinations (not circle hammer fist) So whenever i threw a straight punch then to a hook punch, the chainlink couldn't handle that fast extreme change of angles so it was frustrating, and that is because of the Mechanical design of the swivel, Also the bag only hit on two panels of the bag, the front and back, Wearing out the bag prematurely, The other panels of the bag never hit the drum, With the metal ball-hook you can hit from all sides and angles of the bag with no problem plus all the bags panels would hit the drum, Making the bag last longer.

Brilliant insight on faults of chain link and U- bolt swivels. Thanks!

[ventanakaz]

Got another swivel completed, i'll post one picture here then post more on the (play it again) section of this forum