loops on Roni's speed bags

[BagBoy]

Have you thought about making two different size hooks? one for smaller thinner loops and one for beefier bags and loops?

I don't know that the onus should be on swivel makers to constantly have to work around the loopy world of various loops.

[Mickey Dix]

My personal feeling is that is matters. At the point in the swing where the eye bolt stem reaches its limit by hitting the swivel base, the rest of the swing is dictated by the hook and the bag loop. The ball on the Arc swivel has a larger range of motion than any other ball swivel I have seen. But even the Arc swivel ball can only swing about 50 degrees from the bottom (40 degrees from the drum). That last 40 degrees of motion are all hook and loop. The tri-hook is engineered to have smooth motion for that last 40 degrees. But if the loop is bound to the tri-hook, the loop occasionally will need to twist or pivot relative to the tri-hook. And if the loop is thick and short, it will resist the motion and throw the bag off in a weird direction. The Bradley Pro is an example of a perfect loop, IMO. It is thin and flexible, and never throws off the bag on the tri-hook.

Very well explained RDShackleford.I have two of Roni’s bags and I like them a lot but in my opinion the loop is large and stiff.I would love to see the Roni with a loop like the Bradley Pro.

[paranday]

I haven't used a ball hook in so long I couldn't remember if the loop needed to move. I do remember certain bags would get stuck going on and off the swivel and what a ridiculous pain it was sometimes to change out a bag. Guess the one hand doesn't always know what the other is doing in the speed bag world and we get these incompatibilities.

[LouisvilleBagr]

Roni will make bags to order. If anyone wants a smaller loop, I would suggest giving him specs on the desired loop size. I’m sure he would accommodate.

[pinzpirate]

I don't know that the onus should be on swivel makers to constantly have to work around the loopy world of various loops.

You were saying on the other thread that you wished the hook on your Forza ball swivel was shorter and narrower
How do your Roni and Heritage bags fit on it ? My Cleto and Heritage bags fit Rusty's hooks just like in his pictures
The hook on my Forza is only slightly wider than a Tri-hook

[BagBoy]

You were saying on the other thread that you wished the hook on your Forza ball swivel was shorter and narrower
How do your Roni and Heritage bags fit on it ? My Cleto and Heritage bags fit Rusty's hooks just like in his pictures
The hook on my Forza is only slightly wider than a Tri-hook

My Roni and Heritage bags easily fit on my forza hook. Both my Roni bags fit on my Arc's and Deville's. The heritage bags could never fit on a Deville without some surgery - which I've since done BTW. My forza's are more of a back up swivel now since all I have mounted are two different Arcs and two Deville's. Happy as a clam

BTW my Roni 5.5 bag is my new all time favorite. Going to get a few backups.

[Cazbag]

My Roni and Heritage bags easily fit on my forza hook. Both my Roni bags fit on my Arc's and Deville's. The heritage bags could never fit on a Deville without some surgery - which I've since done BTW. My forza's are more of a back up swivel now since all I have mounted are two different Arcs and two Deville's. Happy as a clam

BTW my Roni 5.5 bag is my new all time favorite. Going to get a few backups.

I'm gonna have to join you on that one Bag Boy! My 5" Blue and White Ronibag has climbed to the to the top of my list too!!

[pinzpirate]

When you buy stuff from him is it as an Etsy vendor or some other way ?

[Mickey Dix]

Etsy Magneti , he has an awesome green bag on there now.Go on Etsy and search speedbag it is on there.

[BagBoy]

When you buy stuff from him is it as an Etsy vendor or some other way ?

Yes, as Mickey said. And if green isn't your thing he comes up with different creations and colors quite often. No bag arsenal is complete with one. Or two. Or four or five if you're insane like me.

[pinzpirate]

"Kermit" the speed bag Definitely a cool looking bag!

[pinzpirate]

Etsy Magneti , he has an awesome green bag on there now.Go on Etsy and search speedbag it is on there.

Roni should give you silver tongued devils a commission When it gets here I'll let you guys know about the loop it comes with I have a feeling
he's already gotten feedback on this subject If Bagboy could get people to buy four or five each and get a commission he definitely would be
on to something

[pinzpirate]

Etsy Magneti , he has an awesome green bag on there now.Go on Etsy and search speedbag it is on there.

Thanks to you and the other "silver tongued devils" Roni's bags are awesome Kermit is my new favorite bag It has a perfect loop Not too thick or long
It's identical to the one on my black Cleto bag My red Cleto has a little bit longer loop than most of us like but the same width and thickness
Do all of Roni's bags come with a storage cover?

[Speedbag]

Have you thought about making two different size hooks? one for smaller thinner loops and one for beefier bags and loops?

"It's not the Size of the Hook, but the way it moves..."

Somebody said that a long time ago....


Anyway, On the topic of swivels that bag attachment area and size have long been an issue, at least as long as I've been punching. Even on the old standard "chainlinks" from the 70-80's the more modern bags of the 2000's would not fit because the "link" was too narrow for the thicker bag loops, which I personally find border on ridiculous. I'm pretty sure most of today's bag manufacturers are not avid speed bag users, or if they are they do not use ballhooks because they would realize the issue. (Maybe that's why the ballhook style died...?)

Anyway, back 2006, 2007 I was working (..consulting..) with a company about Ballhooks, or "The Watkins" ball-hook, and they did make a larger swivel with wider hook opening. If Memory serves they did well for a while BUT, the product always seem to be "on back order". Some people waited over 6 months!! There was some "Family issues" and business management changes and I eventually got tired of all the excuses why their swivel seemed to become a ghost. I did take all links and info about them down from my former website (speedbagcentral). I'm told fulfillment is better now, but I have not ordered or communicated with them in years.

Anyway..here a video I made back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrfwf43mxY&t=257s

The swivel is sold here. (the picture of the swivel has not changed since 2006.) Notice the larger ball-hook option.

Find it here... https://fitness-equipment.com/collections/boxing-gear

[rdshackleford]

... my former website (speedbagcentral)...

your website is gone? when did that happen?