Types of music ?

[swfl]

Good evening. Now that I have the fcp fsp fdp and the f-roll exchanging better it has become much more enjoyable and nice to go for minutes at a time. Today I put elvis in for a station on pandora and a bunch of early rock came on. This type of music made it considerably easier for me to keep time. My question tonight is..what songs or types of music do you punch to? In the beginning what was your music of choice?

[bbally]

I use southern rock. Lynyrd Skynyrd, CCR, The Marshall Tucker band. Etc

[Zaza]

Whatever floats your boat! I've made a few different playlists on the old iPod and jam away for hours...rock, metal, pop, oldies, classical, you name it, it's in there somewhere.

Lately my favorite is Sarah Jarosz & Lilly Allen...and oldtime mountain music!

If it's got a beat, it works.

[Dutchman]

I like Southern Rock, but throw some Blue Grass in the mix. I have a great fondness for "Midnight Flyer" by the Eagles. Reminds me of West (by Gawd!) Virginia, where my wife and I first met. But like what's been said above, whatever works for you is all right.

[Speedbag]

Good evening. Now that I have the fcp fsp fdp and the f-roll exchanging better it has become much more enjoyable and nice to go for minutes at a time. Today I put elvis in for a station on pandora and a bunch of early rock came on. This type of music made it considerably easier for me to keep time.

Elvis songs and early rock will often work fine for the four front techniques you can do.

My question tonight is..what songs or types of music do you punch to? In the beginning what was your music of choice?

Choice of Music is a very difficult question, for it involves (1) personal music choice (style of music) and also depends on (2) your ability to punch fast or slow.

I imagine I have been punching to music a bit longer than most on the forum, and I can tell you that the speed bag can be used with just about every style and speed of music, so your personal music taste and choice will take precedent. Remember, the key focus of punch drumming is the Sounds a technique makes, as well as the accented sound patterns of combinations. When punch drumming to music, you are manipulating the bag beat sounds (mainly accented beats) more than working performing techniques, if that makes sense.

You can use the four front punches you list [Front Circle Punch (FSP), Front Straight Punch (FSP), Front Double Punch (FDP) and Front Fist Rolling (F-Roll)] effectively with all types of music and the main difference will be how fast you can go and transition between combinations with control. Continuous Front Double Punching (FDP ' ' ' FDP) will be the hardest combinations to use because you have the most amount of rebounds to stuff into the time between song beats. The second punch of each FDP lands "on" the song beat, but you have to allow for the pick up beat (lead fist) on each FDP, so you will have to punch harder to make the bag go faster to fit those two extra rebounds within the time frame.

CONTROL is key, so I suggest you start with slower music that has a pretty standard beat that is easy to feel. Just tap your foot to it. If teaching someone the "basics" of punch drumming and using only the just the four front techniques, I would really stay with your suggestions of 50-60's rock and roll music, Which was pretty uncomplicated music with little syncopation of melody or rhythms to confuse you.

For a little beat practice you could start off with some basic metronome practice, punching the four techniques in different orders, synching your accented bag beats to the beat of a metronome. (As you punch you must allow for the swinging or non-punched rebounds to occur while matching the accented "PUNCH" to the beat. Fist rolling can go faster or slower until you feel the beats match)

Metronomes

80 beats per minute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9WtSvrMzCA

100 bpm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrCTB0FC7zg

110 bpm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqokICERknA

120 bpm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9m9PLGBy9E

If you want to play with some drum loops, try some of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG3S781ohdk&list=PLF990399ACFD0A190

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz56TnAjqYo

(* these will be a bit harder until you have more techniques to use..)

LUM drum tracks (Basic beat and fills)

http://www.youtube.com/user/LumBeat/videos?view=0&flow=grid

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Sample Songs for basic punching "on the beat". Some are faster than others..

Pretty woman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PLq0_7k1jk

I can't get no satisfaction

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a7cHPy04s8

Wait till the midnight hour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGVGFfj7POA

Gloria (Doors)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RI-QtEAwvE

Baby, workout

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qOJ1hS__8o

Dream lover (bobby darin)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVHAQX5sSaU

High Heel Sneakers (Tommy Tucker)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykAbeDh2iVw

Sugar pie, Honey Bunch (4 tops)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z59EVHU8MjI

Rock and Roll part I-2 (gary glitter)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIsbD0l_bEg

La Bomba (Richie Havens)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCXlp3D5NQA

Venus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2DBcbZc3ck

No Particular Place to go (Chuck Berry)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtKcdzaqq40

School Day, (Chuck Berry)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHG5-GxI_Es

Heat Wave (Martha & Vandella's - Fast)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k0GDQrK2jo

DA Doo Run Run (the chrystals) pretty fast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVzmEq1KnVw

Shout 1-2 (The Isley Brothers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NNvOei_FFU

Notice a lot of the older Rock and Roll songs above have a feel of a "bounce beat" with a heavy emphasis on two and four. It really helps to have double fist linking in your arsenal to match the bounce beat accent pattern.

That is why I favor "pretty woman" and the other top four songs, since there is no real beat emphasis within the measure.
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A little different type of music


Abacab (genesis)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbjfesCI254

Don't your forget about me (simple minds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jlHz0wF0Ig

New Attitude (patti laBelle)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfZ5SZZ4xE

Get a bit funkier...

Enigma - Sadness (Funky, SLOW beat)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Il1ivUR-2E

Enigma - Rivers of Belief (start about 2:15 or so..)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUyyyMO00Co

Antartica_Vangelis (notice (clap) on 3rd beat of measure, every other measure).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Gwu4LfrpM

With the four front techniques you are pretty much limited to punching "on the beat" in the triplet rhythm. I also suggest you learn the three reverse punching techniques, The Reverse Single Punch (RSP), Reverse Double Punch (RDP), and Reverse Fist Roll (R-Roll), and linking the front four techniques with these. These Single Fist and Double Fist linking open up the use of the double bounce "pass through" rhythms, which will give you a whole lot more sound and beat options to use.

Probably more information and links than you needed, but I hope this helps.

[Zaza]

^^^ you forgot the old favorite, "The Kitchen Sink"!

[Speedbag]

^^^ you forgot the old favorite, "The Kitchen Sink"!

Trust me, I've got LOTS more musical suggestions. so I kept the list short.