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  • BagBoy
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Jan 2018
    • 861

    The Bag(s) you wouldn't buy again

    Or perhaps, The Bag(s) You wish You Didn't Buy Once.

    Up until a little while ago I had no idea that the Title Gyro came in 4 sizes! Turns out they also have an XS 4" I like my Gyro bags so I figured I'd pick up the little one to complete the Gyro line. I expected the bag to be consistent in shape to the other three, a smaller version of the 5" makes sense? You'd think.

    It's the strangest thing but it is a very narrow XS banana bag with out the fat bottom like the others. Also, for a tiny bag it is very unresponsive with the stock bladder it comes with. No problem.. I swapped the bladder for an XS Enkay and that definitely helps but it is in no way like all the other mini bags I have. It's not a mover and it just wants to have a nap!

    The pictures give you an idea but still do not really capture how narrow it is. Not shaped like the others at all::
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  • LouisvilleBagr
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Jun 2019
    • 328

    #2
    Boxeo, Title Black 2.0, and (just to make Rusty smile) the Everlast 4210.

    I can’t decide if I want to know what you do with that whip?

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    • Zaz
      Speed Bag Guru
      • Sep 2018
      • 307

      #3
      I was very disappointed by my Pro-Mex Victoria speed bag. With the stock bladder it felt like i was hitting a bag full of bricks. In addiction, after a few weeks, the loop stretched so much i thought it was going to break! I changed the bladder for a Enkay bladder and i sewed an additional layer of leather under the loop.. The loop stopped stretching and the rebound of the bag got better.

      I don't like my Title Atomic either. It's so light that it lose a lot of speed on the second and third rebound.

      My Valor Ca-12 is a decent bag but it's cheaply made and i don't think it will last long. Can't complain since it came with my platform but i won't buy another one when mine become unusable.
      Last edited by Zaz; 10-01-2019, 10:24 PM.

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      • Cazbag
        Speed Bag Guru
        • Sep 2018
        • 382

        #4
        =LouisvilleBagr;

        I can’t decide if I want to know what you do with that whip?
        LMFAO! I saw that neatly coiled up and was gonna make a remark but you beat me to the punch!

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        • Zaz
          Speed Bag Guru
          • Sep 2018
          • 307

          #5
          Originally posted by BagBoy View Post
          Or perhaps, The Bag(s) You wish You Didn't Buy Once.

          Up until a little while ago I had no idea that the Title Gyro came in 4 sizes! Turns out they also have an XS 4" I like my Gyro bags so I figured I'd pick up the little one to complete the Gyro line. I expected the bag to be consistent in shape to the other three, a smaller version of the 5" makes sense? You'd think.

          It's the strangest thing but it is a very narrow XS banana bag with out the fat bottom like the others. Also, for a tiny bag it is very unresponsive with the stock bladder it comes with. No problem.. I swapped the bladder for an XS Enkay and that definitely helps but it is in no way like all the other mini bags I have. It's not a mover and it just wants to have a nap!

          The pictures give you an idea but still do not really capture how narrow it is. Not shaped like the others at all::
          I'm not sure if it's normal or a quality control problem. The Everlast Kangaroo x-small and small are banana bag while the medium and large are teardrop shaped. Maybe Title wanted their Gyro x-small shaped differently? It doesn't make sense but it would not surprise me... If i was you i would return it.

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          • Speedbag
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            • Feb 2006
            • 7109

            #6
            Everlast 4214. Trade it for a brush pile, then burn the bush pile.
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            • Cazbag
              Speed Bag Guru
              • Sep 2018
              • 382

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              As stated in another post, I would not buy this one again. I removed the big obnoxious rubber patch but the thick leather disc on the bottom interferes as well. Loop too short and tight adding to clunky action. Maybe it would be better in a larger form but I will never know!
              I would not buy the Everlast "Elite" 9x6 again either, loop is flimsy and shape is too out of wack. If I had it to do over again, perhaps I might get the Atomic, but only if I could inspect it before purchasing.

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              • rdshackleford
                Speed Bag Guru
                • Oct 2016
                • 1300

                #8
                Originally posted by Speedbag View Post
                Everlast 4214. Trade it for a brush pile, then burn the bush pile.
                lol, I hear ya, and I would not buy one either. But I would not give this one up for the world. This was my first speed bag, saved up my allowance money to buy it, I think around '77. I used bag gloves. I think the platform was shittier than the bag, so I didn't notice so much.
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                • rdshackleford
                  Speed Bag Guru
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 1300

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Zaz View Post
                  ...I don't like my Title Atomic either. It's so light that it lose a lot of speed on the second and third rebound.
                  I hate it too, dead non-bounce. But I think it might be the synthetic material, not the light weight. My new Bulgarian bag is lighter and larger, and had a ton of bounce.
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                  • BagBoy
                    Speed Bag Guru
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 861

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cazbag View Post

                    LMFAO! I saw that neatly coiled up and was gonna make a remark but you beat me to the punch!
                    Hehehe I grew up on a farm and we had all kinds of old things all over the place. That whip is the real thing, Indiana Jones style! And it looks good with The Barn.

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                    • BagBoy
                      Speed Bag Guru
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 861

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Speedbag View Post
                      Everlast 4214. Trade it for a brush pile, then burn the bush pile.
                      Hahaha Don't sugar-coat it, Alan. Everything I read on that bag screams in agreeance with you. I almost want one just because
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                      • BagBoy
                        Speed Bag Guru
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 861

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Zaz View Post

                        I'm not sure if it's normal or a quality control problem. The Everlast Kangaroo x-small and small are banana bag while the medium and large are teardrop shaped. Maybe Title wanted their Gyro x-small shaped differently? It doesn't make sense but it would not surprise me... If i was you i would return it.
                        Zaz I too thought perhaps they make it like that on purpose. But then, why? If I'm Title I would like to think I would keep a bag line consistent. I don't know.. maybe you're right.
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                        • BagBoy
                          Speed Bag Guru
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 861

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post
                          Boxeo, Title Black 2.0, and (just to make Rusty smile) the Everlast 4210.

                          I can’t decide if I want to know what you do with that whip?
                          LouisvilleBagr You bought a Black 2.0??? OMG Do tell! What's it like?
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                          • LouisvilleBagr
                            Speed Bag Guru
                            • Jun 2019
                            • 328

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BagBoy View Post

                            LouisvilleBagr You bought a Black 2.0??? OMG Do tell! What's it like?
                            I find it to be heavy and clunky, but admittedly I haven’t hit the small bags much lately. It’s the 8x5 and a tad misshapen but that may be because I haven’t punched it out enough. Of course it comes standard with the dead quick tek....not much bounce at all. It takes more force than most of my other bags to keep it moving. Just doesn’t fit my hands. Maybe I’ll appreciate it more as I progress? I’d choose one of my $25 Title ‘the Contender’ bags over it any day. It’s ugly, but is the perfect size somewhere between a 9x6 and 8x5. Thin, soft leather, soft welting you can’t feel and it comes standard with the orange bladder.
                            Last edited by LouisvilleBagr; 10-02-2019, 09:22 PM.

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                            • BagBoy
                              Speed Bag Guru
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 861

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post

                              I find it to be heavy and clunky, but admittedly I haven’t hit the small bags much lately. It’s the 8x5 and a tad misshapen but that may be because I haven’t punched it out enough. Of course it comes standard with the dead quick tek....not much bounce at all. It just doesn’t fit my hands. Maybe I’ll appreciate it more as I progress?
                              Why they would try and reinvent the wheel with that bag is just weird to me. Maybe they'll reinvent the boxeo and it'll be awesome with a different name!
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