Does anyone know if these Everlast metal ball hook swivels with the base painted black where ever sold separately, Or did they only come with the platform package deal?
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If I recall properly, those weren't painted black, they were black ABS plastic, and were among the last of the traditional ball hooks that Everlast produced. The swivels were sold separately, mounted on a wall card instead of the cardboard box that the previous productions. The output may have been for a year or so at best.
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Wow! That's wild. I would have never guessed that the base section of that swivel is a plastic material.
Since the housing section is metal i just assumed that the base was metal also.
Interesting. Thanks Dutchman.
Originally posted by Dutchman View PostIf I recall properly, those weren't painted black, they were black ABS plastic, and were among the last of the traditional ball hooks that Everlast produced. The swivels were sold separately, mounted on a wall card instead of the cardboard box that the previous productions. The output may have been for a year or so at best.
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Originally posted by Dutchman View PostIf I recall properly, those weren't painted black, they were black ABS plastic, and were among the last of the traditional ball hooks that Everlast produced. The swivels were sold separately, mounted on a wall card instead of the cardboard box that the previous productions. The output may have been for a year or so at best.Speed Bag
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Yes, I have a few of these. The base is a hard plastic made to the same specifications as the metal ones. Not sure what year these came out but I think Everlast tried this design for a short period of time then went back to the metal base before moving to the one piece plastic swivels.
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Higher Grade Steel
Does anyone know if the metal housing section of these plastic based swivels are made of a more durable grade steel than the later model all metal everlast swivels, that the company was making just before they stopped production of their metal ball hook swivels all together?
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Originally posted by Dutchman View PostSeems to me this was a last ditch effort to make the swivels here. The male half may have been new old production stock. I surmise that after these were depleted that the production went to China, and we know the rest of the story.
But, I have a supply of both "male half" housings and "female" base units that DO NOT MATCH. I fear it is the threads, either mismatch in size or stripped. Some just spin inside the metal and won't tighten, and others tight two or three turns and lock up, not seating down all the way.Speed Bag
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Originally posted by Dutchman View PostI haven't had the opportunity to check the threads, but it's quite possible that the newer ones are metric and the old ones are NPT
IF I could get the set screws in the everlast balls to turn and release the shank, I would take the ball and eyeshank apart and drop them in a plastic housings of the plastic ballhooks But some of the set screws are locked in so tight I can't turn them without stripping the hole or the wrench.Last edited by Speedbag; 05-18-2012, 06:48 PM.Speed Bag
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Thanks Vent, that's pretty much what i wanted to know about this version of the Everlast Swivel.
So the bottom line is, the housings are made of the same flakey cookie dough grade steel as other later model everlast metal ball hook swivs, the threads on the plastic base are likely to strip out and the bases and housings aren't likely to be interchangeable with other models.
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Originally posted by ventanakaz...i don't think they are a higher quality, i have three everlast ballhooks, one from speedkilz, one that speedbag sent me and one i got from ebay. the one alan sent me had the plastic base but the male metal still had alot of flaking to it, i used a lot of grease to hold the flakes from getting into my eyes. of the three two interchanged with each other (threads were the same). alan's everlast and the one i got from ebay but speedkilz's swivel was a different thread...ralph
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Originally posted by ventanakaz...i don't think they are a higher quality, i have three everlast ballhooks, one from speedkilz, one that speedbag sent me and one i got from ebay. the one alan sent me had the plastic base but the male metal still had alot of flaking to it, i used a lot of grease to hold the flakes from getting into my eyes. of the three two interchanged with each other (threads were the same). alan's everlast and the one i got from ebay but speedkilz's swivel was a different thread...ralph
..or, just get the Deville Ballhook for a lot less trouble. But we seem to have a lot of everlast parts laying around.Speed Bag
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Originally posted by ventanakaz...that's a good idea, i have a suggestion maybe everyone who is going to speedbag III should bring their mismatched everlast swivels...ralphSpeed Bag
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