Hey fellow baggers! So after many hours trying to learn the craft of speed bagging with the ball hook/s-hook swivel, I reget to say that I have to revert back to the u-bolt. I'm trying to learn the basics, and the ball hook is just too wild for me now. It's like the movie Seabiscuit where they have Seabisuit running down the track for the first time where he's all zig-zagging, and I believe Jeff Bridges' character says: "Well, he's fast...", and the trainer played by Chris Cooper responds: "Yeah, in all directions." That's the kind of experience I'm having with the ball hook. I don't know if any of you beginners out there are having the same experience, but if you are, you might want to start out with a u-bolt/chain link swivel. I'm finding it easier to learn timing this way, because then you're just worried about keeping the bag going one direction. Anyway, my two cents.
Ball hook too much for a beginner
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Speed Bag Scissorhands endorses the U-bolt, even Alan Kahn mentions it on one of his DVDs as one "the neighbors will like", haha. No shame in bagging on a U-bolt. Besides, anyone who bad mouths the U-bolt will have to contend with the wrath of Fingers.
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Originally posted by biguglybear View PostHey fellow baggers! So after many hours trying to learn the craft of speed bagging with the ball hook/s-hook swivel, I reget to say that I have to revert back to the u-bolt.1
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Originally posted by Tim View PostIt's a good hit to the ego to have to slow down to accomodate the ball hook, but with time you will get used to it. I would simply suggest you give it a try again some time in the future.
Originally posted by paranday View PostSpeed Bag Scissorhands endorses the U-bolt, even Alan Kahn mentions it on one of his DVDs as one "the neighbors will like", haha. No shame in bagging on a U-bolt. Besides, anyone who bad mouths the U-bolt will have to contend with the wrath of Fingers.
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Originally posted by biguglybear View PostHey fellow baggers! So after many hours trying to learn the craft of speed bagging with the ball hook/s-hook swivel, I reget to say that I have to revert back to the u-bolt. I'm trying to learn the basics, and the ball hook is just too wild for me now. It's like the movie Seabiscuit where they have Seabisuit running down the track for the first time where he's all zig-zagging, and I believe Jeff Bridges' character says: "Well, he's fast...", and the trainer played by Chris Cooper responds: "Yeah, in all directions." That's the kind of experience I'm having with the ball hook. I don't know if any of you beginners out there are having the same experience, but if you are, you might want to start out with a u-bolt/chain link swivel. I'm finding it easier to learn timing this way, because then you're just worried about keeping the bag going one direction. Anyway, my two cents.
But, when I finally decided that I wanted to "broaden my SB-ing horizon" and attempt elbow punches, the U-bolt was less forgiving in that respect. When I installed the s-hook, it took just a few days of practice before I got the hang of it. Don't get me wrong, the bag still goes wacky on me when I'm not paying close attention to keeping my elbows up, etc. But, I must say that I get a lot of satisfaction working out on it. I like the way the bag handles... the sound it makes... just hitting the bag seems more enjoyable.
But, I have to give credit to the U-bolt for getting me this far. Had I started speed bagging using the s-hook, I wouldn't be here today... I probably would have given up in frustration.sigpic Contact me anytime for information about Deville Swivels Email: DevilleSwivels@gmail.com
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Originally posted by paranday View PostSpeed Bag Scissorhands endorses the U-bolt, even Alan Kahn mentions it on one of his DVDs as one "the neighbors will like", haha. No shame in bagging on a U-bolt. Besides, anyone who bad mouths the U-bolt will have to contend with the wrath of Fingers.
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Originally posted by biguglybear View PostI think I just lost my u bolt while changing out bags, so looks like I might be going back to the s hook, afterall. Annoying.
I started learning on a ball hook from the start 'cos the u-bolt was TOO noisy and banned immediately
So, maybe I'm not up to rip roaring speed yet, but I guess this way I will have to learn control with every slight change of bag direction. No bad thing! I'm sure it will pay off later. Good luck
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Originally posted by paranday View PostThe U bolt adds to your mystique. Like Sinatra, you can say you did it your way.
Originally posted by Dutchman View PostOkay, I'll admit it, I use a U bolt..................
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Originally posted by Mrs Mitts View PostDon't despair, it's not THAT bad!!!
So, maybe I'm not up to rip roaring speed yet, but I guess this way I will have to learn control with every slight change of bag direction. No bad thing! I'm sure it will pay off later. Good luck
Originally posted by SpeedBagScissorhands View Postwow looks like im gonna be the last of the U bolters!
Originally posted by fingers View PostHa Ha!! believe it or not i am about to give the ball hook a try for the first time soon!
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Hey B.U.B. I am reletively new to speedbaggin myself. Back in the 80's, I boxed and used to work out on the speedbag (only front circle punches, long before the "Speed Bag Bible") and used the chain-link swivel. It was OK for what I was doing. I think it was similar to the ubolt in terms of what type of resistance you might get when changing direction of the bag (side punces mostly).
Since I started speedbaging recently,I basically started from scratch. I got a ball/hook when I set up my platform and haven't known anything different. It's what I learned all my techniques on. Since almost all the techniques are awkward at first, things go slow, but from basic practice you begin to get the feel and the rhythm of each technique and before you know it, your "doing it". So just as everyone else has said, it's whatever you get used to, and are comfortable with.
So I guess the moral of the story is not to give up or get discouraged, have patients,
and keep practicing. "I have all the faith in the world in you!"T.J. MaTEE'[/U][/U] u:
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