I’m currently talking to some decision makers at my employer about setting up a board at work. I’m going at it from a health/wellness angle. They are actually excited about the idea of putting up a board and letting me teach the basics to employees. Does anyone have some links to any legit studies/articles detailing the physical or mental benefits of bagging? The more ammunition I have the better. There may be miles of Fortune 50 red tape to cut through to get this done.
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Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View PostI’m currently talking to some decision makers at my employer about setting up a board at work. I’m going at it from a health/wellness angle. They are actually excited about the idea of putting up a board and letting me teach the basics to employees. Does anyone have some links to any legit studies/articles detailing the physical or mental benefits of bagging? The more ammunition I have the better. There may be miles of Fortune 50 red tape to cut through to get this done.
Anyway to be brief there are NO speed bag specific studies that I have found. Some on punching, boxing etc. but nothing dedicated to speed bag.
You can peruse a few of these to see if they are helpful.
Background High-intensity interval training (HIIT) performed on exercise cycle or treadmill is considered safe and often more beneficial for fat loss and cardiometabolic health than moderate-intensity continuous training (MICT). The aim of this pilot study was to assess the feasibility and effectiveness of a 12-week boxing training (HIIT) intervention compared with an equivalent dose of brisk walking (MICT) in obese adults. Methods Men and women with abdominal obesity and body mass index >25 kg/m2 were randomized to either a boxing group or a brisk walking (control) group for 12 weeks. Each group engaged in 4 training sessions per week, equated for total physical activity. Feasibility outcomes included recruitment rates, assessment of training intensities, adherence and adverse events. Effectiveness was assessed pre and post intervention via pertinent obesity-, cardiovascular-, and health-related quality of life (HRQoL) outcomes. Results Nineteen individuals expressed an interest and 63% (n = 12) consented. Recruitment was slower than anticipated (1.3 participants/week). The boxing group trained at a significantly higher intensity each week versus the brisk walking group (p 
punching
|https://www.sciencedirect.com/search...nce&cid=282623
bag punching (none)
padded hand punching
The mother-load of ALL published research in the world can be found at PUBMED.GOV, (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/) a clearing house of probably 95% of the accepted research journals around the world that deal with medical topics. I use it A LOT for many topics of interest. Type your topic in the search bar and if you get any hits, follow some of the "related" topics or bibliography listed in the study you are reading.
{Speedbag) (nothing)
"Bag Punching" (you need the quotations to specify both words.IF not, it will show every article with one, the other, or both and triple your review time)
Pubmed search for all publications by "sports science journal" listings
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22J+Sports+Sci%22[jour]
The aim of this study was to determine the relationship between the reductions in momentum of punching arm segments and the impulse of the impact force when boxers throw a punch at a movable target with a mass almost equal to that of the human head. Nine male expert collegiate boxers threw a rear-ha …
Punching bag For mental stress in children (not speed bag)
Most "research" you can find will be Anecdotal with no actual physiological measurement to back it up. Advertisers love it because it works for people looking for "proof" of what they want. Of course we baggers have used this ourselves, sure of self improvements made by bagging, however if not done and measure by research protocol with measures of "validity" and "reliability", it will never be seen as anything but Anecdotal.
Speed bag training is one of the most fun, high intensity, quick workouts that you can do. The results you can get from short but…
All speed bags are punching bags, but not all punching bags are speed bags. In boxing parlance, punching bag is the generic term applied to all such tools, but most "civilians" mean a standard heavy bag. Both heavy and speed bags can produce health benefits if used correctly as part of a systematic regimen.
Hitting the speed bag is not just for boxers - it's a fun workout Looking for a creative way to add some fun to your workout? Consider speed bag punching. Boxers are universally known as the hardest working, leanest, and most well-conditioned athletes on the planet. That's because facing an…
The speed bag is one of the most useful training equipment for boxing and any striking-based martial art. Obviously, every martial art gym needs to own this amazing training tool. Because it does not only improve boxing skills but also improves physical fitness and it can even calm your body, and mind. So, most fitness
Boxing (including speed bag ) in parkinsons
Despite the progressive nature of PD, the patients in this case series showed short-term and long-term improvements in balance, gait, activities of daily living, and quality of life after the boxing training program. A longer duration of training was necessary for patients with moderate to severe PD …
That's all I got.
good luck.
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AK, that is awesome sauce!!
To put in my $.02, I would like to find some peer-reviewed research papers talking concerning the risks of certain sport activities like punching while recouperating from arm/shoulder/hand surgery. For those who believe in the theraputic and fitness benefits of the punching arts, we sometimes find ourselves in the post-operative and physical therapy times. And also long term after PT, what is safe/beneficial and what is risky/dangerous? It is not obvious to me, and when you ask your surgeon or physical therapist, they have little understanding about this uncommon activity on the fringe of the sports world.@ArcSwivel
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Originally posted by Speedbag View Post
The secret to your request is "legit...." which usually means studies done under recognized protocols (to remember my graduate statistics days..) with reproduceable measures of statstical "validity" and "reliability" . I've been chasing this same thing for 30 years, and boy would I love to find some research minded/skilled people to design such a study for fitness and benefits, especially for various movement disorders. That has yet to happen....
Anyway to be brief there are NO speed bag specific studies that I have found. Some on punching, boxing etc. but nothing dedicated to speed bag.
You can peruse a few of these to see if they are helpful.
https://bmcsportsscimedrehabil.biome.../2052-1847-7-3
https://journals.humankinetics.com/v...p-overview.xml
https://www.sciencedirect.com/journa...health-science
punching
|https://www.sciencedirect.com/search...nce&cid=282623
bag punching (none)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/search...nce&cid=282623
padded hand punching
https://www.journals.aiac.org.au/ind...icle/view/1906
The mother-load of ALL published research in the world can be found at PUBMED.GOV, (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/) a clearing house of probably 95% of the accepted research journals around the world that deal with medical topics. I use it A LOT for many topics of interest. Type your topic in the search bar and if you get any hits, follow some of the "related" topics or bibliography listed in the study you are reading.
{Speedbag) (nothing)
"Bag Punching" (you need the quotations to specify both words.IF not, it will show every article with one, the other, or both and triple your review time)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ag+punching%22
Pubmed search for all publications by "sports science journal" listings
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=%22J+Sports+Sci%22[jour]
The aim of this study was to determine the relationship between the reductions in momentum of punching arm segments and the impulse of the impact force when boxers throw a punch at a movable target with a mass almost equal to that of the human head. Nine male expert collegiate boxers threw a rear-ha …
Punching bag For mental stress in children (not speed bag)
Most "research" you can find will be Anecdotal with no actual physiological measurement to back it up. Advertisers love it because it works for people looking for "proof" of what they want. Of course we baggers have used this ourselves, sure of self improvements made by bagging, however if not done and measure by research protocol with measures of "validity" and "reliability", it will never be seen as anything but Anecdotal.
https://cardiosmash.com/23-benefits-...g-a-speed-bag/
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=459343
https://www.livestrong.com/article/5...-punching-bag/
https://www.theboxxmethod.com/blog/c...g-build-muscle
https://www.titleboxing.com/news/spe...-the-speed-bag
Hitting the speed bag is not just for boxers - it's a fun workout Looking for a creative way to add some fun to your workout? Consider speed bag punching. Boxers are universally known as the hardest working, leanest, and most well-conditioned athletes on the planet. That's because facing an…
https://findbestboxinggloves.com/8-a...-bag-training/
Boxing (including speed bag ) in parkinsons
Despite the progressive nature of PD, the patients in this case series showed short-term and long-term improvements in balance, gait, activities of daily living, and quality of life after the boxing training program. A longer duration of training was necessary for patients with moderate to severe PD …
That's all I got.
good luck.
We also have a large number of special needs employees. I don’t have enough knowledge to attempt to sell including them. I can only imagine how some of them would take to the speed bag? Something tells me it would really work wonders for many.Last edited by LouisvilleBagr; 12-09-2019, 07:50 PM.
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Originally posted by rdshackleford View PostAK, that is awesome sauce!!
To put in my $.02, I would like to find some peer-reviewed research papers talking concerning the risks of certain sport activities like punching while recouperating from arm/shoulder/hand surgery. For those who believe in the theraputic and fitness benefits of the punching arts, we sometimes find ourselves in the post-operative and physical therapy times. And also long term after PT, what is safe/beneficial and what is risky/dangerous? It is not obvious to me, and when you ask your surgeon or physical therapist, they have little understanding about this uncommon activity on the fringe of the sports world.
Fun fact (stupid on my part...) I made a video punching the speed bag "12 days" after my replacement and emailed it to Buz Burkhead (my surgeon), who was NOT impressed. And gave me a "cease and desist" order "right now" lest I rip off the subscapularis or Biceps tendon reinsertions. I followed that but made another one punch drumming at 3 months that he showed at an orthopedic conference.2 PhotosLast edited by Speedbag; 12-09-2019, 08:26 PM.Speed Bag
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Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post
Thank you SO much, this will be very helpful. My hope is to teach people who want to improve their heath/fitness or are just interested. I hope to get the company’s blessing and incorporate this as an option in our health and wellness program.
We also have a large number of special needs employees. I don’t have enough knowledge to attempt to sell including them. I can only imagine how some of them would take to the speed bag? Something tells me it would really work wonders for many.
You can do this!
Good luck. Book and DVD's will be made available. I can also write a letter of recommendation for you.
Not sure that will help but it can't hurt if you don't have speed bags there anyway...
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Originally posted by Speedbag View Post... Our sockets are still bone, the humeral heads are now chrome, so the bone is going to lose.
I am almost 10 weeks out now and still under the strict rule of don't lift anything heavier than a coffee mug. Likewise I am being very patient and conservative with any movements outside of my PT. I am hoping at 12 weeks I will have my restrictions removed or lessened, that would be a good xmas present for me.
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Originally posted by rdshackleford View Post
Oh that's right, you had a hemi-arthroplasty. You told me that years ago, but at the time I didn't really understand it. Mine is a full replacement, so I have an inlay glenoid prosthesis made of UHMWPE.
I am almost 10 weeks out now and still under the strict rule of don't lift anything heavier than a coffee mug. Likewise I am being very patient and conservative with any movements outside of my PT. I am hoping at 12 weeks I will have my restrictions removed or lessened, that would be a good xmas present for me.Speed Bag
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Originally posted by Speedbag View Post
Especially with a knowledgeable instructor that can actually teach the basics of simple movements guided by sound. Remember to tell them, it is NOT a speed bag. It is a "control bag". If they can control their movements of speed and force, and do this repetitively....then the bag will do exactly as it is supposed to. And the sound will be their guide.
You can do this!
Good luck. Book and DVD's will be made available. I can also write a letter of recommendation for you.
Not sure that will help but it can't hurt if you don't have speed bags there anyway...
We're all super busy here at work making sure you all get your new speedbags/speedballs in time for Christmas that there isnt much time for extras ,like my speedbag plan. I have a meeting with the head honcho of Health and Safety in the works. It may not happen until after Christmas, but it will happen.
This will give me a little time to put the bug in some of the other higher ups ears and try to build a consensus.
Maybe once I have my sales pitch organized, I can send it to you to read over and possibly make corrections/suggestions? If not, I totally understand, you've already gone above and beyond to help me....forever grateful!!!
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Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post
Mr. Kahn, there are no words to describe how honored I am that you have taken so much precious time to support me on this idea.
We're all super busy here at work making sure you all get your new speedbags/speedballs in time for Christmas that there isnt much time for extras ,like my speedbag plan. I have a meeting with the head honcho of Health and Safety in the works. It may not happen until after Christmas, but it will happen.
This will give me a little time to put the bug in some of the other higher ups ears and try to build a consensus.
Maybe once I have my sales pitch organized, I can send it to you to read over and possibly make corrections/suggestions? If not, I totally understand, you've already gone above and beyond to help me....forever grateful!!!
J
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