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  • #16
    Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post
    Thank you, sir. With the little cheat sheet I just made from those suggestions and the Bible, of course, I hope to be linking in more side combinations very soon.

    I hope it works!....Go slow, this is not a race. Suddenly, sometime, it will all make sense....
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Speedbag View Post


      I hope it works!....Go slow, this is not a race. Suddenly, sometime, it will all make sense....


      Im starting to get the feeling. I see now where I was going wrong attempting to link in the SDP with both hands coming from the same side. I feel how the ending hand position after starting with the FCP will make this easier to link in with other combinations and techniques.
      Last edited by LouisvilleBagr; 07-31-2019, 04:05 PM.

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      • #18
        You have the traditional need to crank it up a notch coming back in but at the same time you are bringing it back under control. Very impressive and above par! Keep the vids coming it's a joy to watch

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        • #19
          After watching again I would say your side single punch is really right on (ssp) coming off of reverse punch , not really cranked up as previously stated. I dont think there was a side double punch there (sdp). Irregardless you are on task and ahead of the game for your length of time in!

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          • #20
            Thanks Caz, I really appreciate the feedback. I feel like I'm doing some sort of double punch here, or maybe I'm not doing it right yet? I'm catching it with a FCP, then a SSP on one rebound. Do I need to add a punch in there somewhere to make it a double punch?

            Before practicing this movement, in previous practice clips, I was doing a SDP with both hands coming from the R ( L-R ). At my skill level it is difficult for me to link a combination to that.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post
              Thanks Caz, I really appreciate the feedback. I feel like I'm doing some sort of double punch here, or maybe I'm not doing it right yet? I'm catching it with a FCP, then a SSP on one rebound. Do I need to add a punch in there somewhere to make it a double punch?

              Before practicing this movement, in previous practice clips, I was doing a SDP with both hands coming from the R ( L-R ). At my skill level it is difficult for me to link a combination to that.


              You are doing "some sort of Double Punch". You are doing a few FCP's and then a SIDE double punch (SDP) with your lead fist hitting FCP and second fist hitting SSP. they create the SDP.

              NO you don't need another punch to make that a double punch, it already is. "DOUBLE" means two fists or parts. "TRIPLE strikes" have 3 parts, adding and elbow to both fists.

              * After the SSP hits and comes back on two rebounds as a FCP, you could also join the "other fist from the side" to create another SDP. So you would had SDP ' ' SDP

              Check out this video. The whole video may be helpful, but particularly at about 4:25 when it focuses more on SDP.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F7ErYaMX-I&t=1s



              not sure why this link isn't working....sorry...

              Originally posted by Cazbag View Post
              After watching again I would say your side single punch is really right on (ssp) coming off of reverse punch (rsp) , not really cranked up as previously stated. I dont think there was a side double punch there (sdp). Irregardless you are on task and ahead of the game for your length of time in!
              That pretty typical, and actually not such a big deal. There is little different between the "normal" SSP and RSP and they can almost always be substituted. Even with your fist hanging out to the side, when it makes contact it is really close to the side-reverse borderline. A lot of the time it is difficult to tell if someone "fast" is doing Side or Reverse punching in a combination, and they might not actually know either. With experience you can purposely manipulate the fist contact point around the side of the bag to get more of a "side to side" rebound for some combo.

              I kind of talk about that in this video at 4:50 (part of a more difficult combination) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCt7uA-gYJM&t=4s

              For some reason, the [youtube] link system won't link this video's ....


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              Last edited by Speedbag; 08-01-2019, 09:09 PM.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Speedbag View Post

                You are doing "some sort of Double Punch". You are doing a few FCP's and then a SIDE double punch (SDP) with your lead fist hitting FCP and second fist hitting SSP. they create the SDP.

                NO you don't need another punch to make that a double punch, it already is. "DOUBLE" means two fists or parts. "TRIPLE strikes" have 3 parts, adding and elbow to both fists.

                * After the SSP hits and comes back on two rebounds as a FCP, you could also join the "other fist from the side" to create another SDP. So you would had SDP ' ' SDP

                Check out this video. The whole video may be helpful, but particularly at about 4:25 when it focuses more on SDP.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F7ErYaMX-I&t=1s



                not sure why this link isn't working....sorry...



                That pretty typical, and actually not such a big deal. There is little different between the "normal" SSP and RSP and they can almost always be substituted. Even with your fist hanging out to the side, when it makes contact it is really close to the side-reverse borderline. A lot of the time it is difficult to tell if someone "fast" is doing Side or Reverse punching in a combination, and they might not actually know either. With experience you can purposely manipulate the fist contact point around the side of the bag to get more of a "side to side" rebound for some combo.

                I kind of talk about that in this video at 4:50 (part of a more difficult combination) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCt7uA-gYJM&t=4s

                For some reason, the [youtube] link system won't link this video's ....


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                Cant thank you enough. If you have a video up, I've watched it. A couple weeks ago I watched the first one 'Speed Bag SDP combinations' at least 20 times. I still couldn't land that side punch. What made it click for me was in this thread you suggested that the FCP and the SSP be thrown at the same time.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post

                  Cant thank you enough. If you have a video up, I've watched it. A couple weeks ago I watched the first one 'Speed Bag SDP combinations' at least 20 times. I still couldn't land that side punch. What made it click for me was in this thread you suggested that the FCP and the SSP be thrown at the same time.
                  Yes they are thrown at the same time.
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                  • #24
                    That is kinda what I was aiming to say. In the latest video you are setting yourself up to a great position but a double punch with both fists, be it side to side, or diagonal to side(same as side to side as Alan explained) wasn't there yet. Definitely working towards that end though as you were certainly setting up your lead fists. It took me quite awhile to understand what is going on with the side double and side to side double punches.... and then an even longer time to feel comfortable doing it and then the ah ha moment hits and when you got it you think now why did I over-think that into being too hard. But that is what makes the journey so great.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Cazbag View Post
                      That is kinda what I was aiming to say. In the latest video you are setting yourself up to a great position but a double punch with both fists, be it side to side, or diagonal to side(same as side to side as Alan explained) wasn't there yet. Definitely working towards that end though as you were certainly setting up your lead fists. It took me quite awhile to understand what is going on with the side double and side to side double punches.... and then an even longer time to feel comfortable doing it and then the ah ha moment hits and when you got it you think now why did I over-think that into being too hard. But that is what makes the journey so great.
                      I understand....I devoted some practice time to the SDP' 'SDP this afternoon. I do notice my SSP is still more of RSP.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post

                        I understand....I devoted some practice time to the SDP' 'SDP this afternoon. I do notice my SSP is still more of RSP.



                        Looks and sounds Good. NOW, just eliminate that FCP in the middle From SDP ' ' FCP ' ' ' SDP to SDP ' ' SDP. (*key is keep moving both fists together at same time. )
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Speedbag View Post



                          Looks and sounds Good. NOW, just eliminate that FCP in the middle From SDP ' ' FCP ' ' ' SDP to SDP ' ' SDP. (*key is keep moving both fists together at same time. )
                          First day landing it without a FCP in between. This is a fun little combination, I look forward to polishing it up and adding it to my arsenal.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by LouisvilleBagr View Post

                            First day landing it without a FCP in between. This is a fun little combination, I look forward to polishing it up and adding it to my arsenal.

                            OK, you're getting there. Keep the lead hand UP. so when your left or right fist leads the SDP and goes to the side, KEEP IT UP.

                            I see you're dropping them down. Here are a few screen grabs, and you do it pretty consistently. Sure you are pulling if off, But if you watch that side fist going "upwards" to bag it looks like it's more of a pinwheel motion, not straight movements. Yes this is nit picky but IMO keeping them up will add speed and control over time, and will reduce the inch or more of wasted movement going down and back up. Just my Opinion.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Speedbag View Post

                              OK, you're getting there. Keep the lead hand UP. so when your left or right fist leads the SDP and goes to the side, KEEP IT UP.

                              I see you're dropping them down. Here are a few screen grabs, and you do it pretty consistently. Sure you are pulling if off, But if you watch that side fist going "upwards" to bag it looks like it's more of a pinwheel motion, not straight movements. Yes this is nit picky but IMO keeping them up will add speed and control over time, and will reduce the inch or more of wasted movement going down and back up. Just my Opinion.

                              Click image for larger version Name:	LouisBagger SDP.jpg Views:	0 Size:	59.4 KB ID:	114851
                              Cant thank you enough. Nit picky is exactly what I need. I will be focusing on keeping my hands up.

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                              • #30
                                Now your cooking! Look forward to seeing the polished version within the arsenal

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