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  • Speedbag Seaweed Man
    Speed Bag Guru
    • Apr 2015
    • 442

    Bag O'clock

    It wasn't Bag O'clock until well after dark but after four days away from home, how could I refuse?

  • Alex Skylakos
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 101

    #2
    Damn bro! Showing much progress as always!

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    • Speedbag Seaweed Man
      Speed Bag Guru
      • Apr 2015
      • 442

      #3
      My nonagon is way better than the concrete filled plywood box I have been hitting under.
      It is so solid. I guess it does weigh over a ton. The poles go about 4feet into the ground, set in concrete and with the solid wood drum the result is a waay faster rebound. Now I know what I have been missing out on! And I actually thought my ply box was all good. Little did I know.

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      • Speedbag
        Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

        • Feb 2006
        • 7109

        #4
        Originally posted by Speedbag Seaweed Man View Post
        My nonagon is way better than the concrete filled plywood box I have been hitting under.
        It is so solid. I guess it does weigh over a ton. The poles go about 4feet into the ground, set in concrete and with the solid wood drum the result is a waay faster rebound. Now I know what I have been missing out on! And I actually thought my ply box was all good. Little did I know.
        The solidity of the board makes all the difference in world. Rarely do we ever find a board that will NOT vibrate - but when you do you will immediately recognize the difference. I think a lot of speed bags get blamed for being "slow" when in fact it is the set up that is the problem.


        That hat rig makes you look like a Coal Miner, so I can imagine that imagine is what Loretta Lynn was singing about.

        Artist: Loretta Lynn / Song: Coal Miner's DaughterLoretta Lynn performs "Coal Miner's Daughter" at a concert in 1978. LYRICSWell, I was borned a coal miner's...


        Easy Song for punch drumming in mid speed "straight time punching".
        Speed Bag

        Put a little Rhythm in YOUR workout!
        *attendee: Every SB gathering so far!
        The Quest Continues...
        Hoping for another Gathering...


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        • Speedbag Seaweed Man
          Speed Bag Guru
          • Apr 2015
          • 442

          #5
          Originally posted by Speedbag View Post
          The solidity of the board makes all the difference in world. Rarely do we ever find a board that will NOT vibrate - but when you do you will immediately recognize the difference. I think a lot of speed bags get blamed for being "slow" when in fact it is the set up that is the problem.


          That hat rig makes you look like a Coal Miner, so I can imagine that imagine is what Loretta Lynn was singing about.

          Artist: Loretta Lynn / Song: Coal Miner's DaughterLoretta Lynn performs "Coal Miner's Daughter" at a concert in 1978. LYRICSWell, I was borned a coal miner's...


          Easy Song for punch drumming in mid speed "straight time punching".
          Hopefully I am the coal miner and not his daughter! I have a fire, lots of kids but am not ready to die quite yet

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          • stefoz
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 155

            #6
            Amazing progress ,you look very dedicated !!!!That is a big plus

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            • Speedbag Seaweed Man
              Speed Bag Guru
              • Apr 2015
              • 442

              #7
              Tick Tock bag O'clock

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              • Speedbag
                Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                • Feb 2006
                • 7109

                #8
                Originally posted by Speedbag Seaweed Man View Post
                Tick Tock bag O'clock

                I'd say you don't have to think about where your hands are or the number of rebounds required anymore. You're walking those fists and elbows around the bag from every side to every other side with NO problem.

                Now, wasn't that easier than you thought
                Speed Bag

                Put a little Rhythm in YOUR workout!
                *attendee: Every SB gathering so far!
                The Quest Continues...
                Hoping for another Gathering...


                sigpic

                The Art of the Bag

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                • Speedbag Seaweed Man
                  Speed Bag Guru
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 442

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Speedbag View Post
                  I'd say you don't have to think about where your hands are or the number of rebounds required anymore. You're walking those fists and elbows around the bag from every side to every other side with NO problem.

                  Now, wasn't that easier than you thought

                  Yes It was easier than I thought. And I believe what made it possible for me to achieve was by working my way through The Speed Bag Bible. Then learning to hit to music tuned my ear in to the sounds I was generating. And I have you to thank for that too!

                  Now learning a new combo is as easy as writing it, then hitting it.

                  Here is a fun one-
                  R-L(FDP)'R(SSP)'L(RSP)''L-R(FDP)'L(SSP)'R(RSP) repeat..
                  So it is a four punch fist roll alternating between left and right hand lead fist.

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                  • Speedbag
                    Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7109

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Speedbag Seaweed Man View Post
                    Yes It was easier than I thought. And I believe what made it possible for me to achieve was by working my way through The Speed Bag Bible. Then learning to hit to music tuned my ear in to the sounds I was generating. And I have you to thank for that too!

                    Now learning a new combo is as easy as writing it, then hitting it.

                    Yes that is pretty much true. OR....doing a new combo by mistake and now you can write it down and analyze it. It is amazing how much one can teach, and learn when you can read and write the music. Unfortunately, very few have the disciple or take the time to learn that way, ...preferring to see a quick video demo or mimic someones moves. I realize it is a way that works for them, and the world has plenty of drummers who can play great but can't say or play the rudiments, or write a note of what they did. Every instrument has them and many play at very high levels, as do speed baggers who never learn exactly what the differences are between a Downward Triple Elbow, the Outward Triple Elbow or Side Triple Elbow. But for the ones like YOU who have taken the time, time to read the many long practice exercises and examples I wrote for you.. It has made a huge difference. It is the only way I can seriously teach from several thousand miles away. You are the perfect coupling of insight, desire, practice and more practice. And suddenly, it's there. You can do it, you know how to do it and really see how it all works. Funny how it is really not so hard once you arrive at where you are in skill and understanding. You will also be an excellent teacher and that makes me the happiest ....for now the cycle can continue. I hope some day to share the same space under your board.

                    Originally posted by Speedbag Seaweed Man View Post

                    Here is a fun one-

                    R-L(FDP)'R(SSP)'L(RSP)''L-R(FDP)'L(SSP)'R(RSP) repeat..

                    So it is a four punch fist roll alternating between left and right hand lead fist.

                    Actually, I call that combo "a four punch walk around"... (I've done it for years ) AND it works fine with music if you understand how to do it.

                    The combo will start with the lead fist of the (FDP) landing on the beat (rather then the second fist), and you will emphasize the RSP, which lands in between beat 1 and 2 (1-and..), after the pass back to the front of the bag, the lead fist of the second FDP will also land "on" the next beat (beat 2), then walk the SSP to the other side and emphasize that last RSP which lands at "4 and " ...to pass back to the front (after two rebounds).

                    The secret is knowing you have to speed up your fists a bit to pull it off, so if you are just straight time punching in triplet rhythm with a single fist, let that single fist contact be the "lead fist" of that first FDP. The let it fly and put a little emphasize on the RSP contact, for that is the punch that will keep it all in sync. (In your video I already hear that RSP a bit louder than the others.)
                    At least that is how it works for me. Start out with slow music at first for this combo has to fly to pull it off.

                    hope that helps.
                    Speed Bag

                    Put a little Rhythm in YOUR workout!
                    *attendee: Every SB gathering so far!
                    The Quest Continues...
                    Hoping for another Gathering...


                    sigpic

                    The Art of the Bag

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                    • Speedbag Seaweed Man
                      Speed Bag Guru
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 442

                      #11
                      [QUOTE=Speedbag;50199]Yes that is pretty much true. OR....doing a new combo by mistake and now you can write it down and analyze it. It is amazing how much one can teach, and learn when you can read and write the music. Unfortunately, very few have the disciple or take the time to learn that way, ...preferring to see a quick video demo or mimic someones moves. I realize it is a way that works for them, and the world has plenty of drummers who can play great but can't say or play the rudiments, or write a note of what they did. Every instrument has them and many play at very high levels, as do speed baggers who never learn exactly what the differences are between a Downward Triple Elbow, the Outward Triple Elbow or Side Triple Elbow. But for the ones like YOU who have taken the time, time to read the many long practice exercises and examples I wrote for you.. It has made a huge difference. It is the only way I can seriously teach from several thousand miles away. You are the perfect coupling of insight, desire, practice and more practice. And suddenly, it's there. You can do it, you know how to do it and really see how it all works. Funny how it is really not so hard once you arrive at where you are in skill and understanding. You will also be an excellent teacher and that makes me the happiest ....for now the cycle can continue. I hope some day to share the same space under your board.


                      It will be a dream come true for me and I will be truly honored to hit the bag with The King.

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                      • Speedbag Seaweed Man
                        Speed Bag Guru
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 442

                        #12
                        Any time he wants to play on the swing it is bag o'clock.

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                        • Speedbag Seaweed Man
                          Speed Bag Guru
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 442

                          #13
                          Just some random bag hitting.

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                          • Speedbag Seaweed Man
                            Speed Bag Guru
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 442

                            #14
                            Hit the bag.

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                            • Speedbag Seaweed Man
                              Speed Bag Guru
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 442

                              #15
                              Every Day.



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