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  • Kevdawg0324
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 146

    kevin trying something?

    heres a video of me trying the technique/combo?

    i think its a (l)fcp ' (rrl)dtes ' ' rdp ' ' (r)fcp ' (llr)dtes.......

    correct me if im wrong on the denotation please.
  • Kevdawg0324
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 146

    #2
    like i said before, i think this is a variation of billymack's routine. he does otes and i do dtes, i think.

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    • Kyle
      Speed Bag Guru
      • Nov 2006
      • 581

      #3
      i really like the looks of that combo. im going to try to do that one today
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      Last edited by Kyle; 09-11-2011, 06:15 AM.

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      • Tim
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        • Jan 2006
        • 3428

        #4
        Lookin' good.

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        • Kevdawg0324
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 146

          #5
          thank you for the compliments guys. i think this one is a little easier to do than billymacks because this way you dont have to maneuver your opposite hand around your elbow.

          the bag is yet again, my trusty 5x8 title yellow with a ringside super swivel.
          Last edited by Kevdawg0324; 02-11-2007, 08:48 PM.

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          • Speedbag
            Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

            • Feb 2006
            • 7109

            #6
            KevDawg combo

            Originally posted by Kevdawg0324 View Post
            heres a video of me trying the technique/combo?

            i think its a (l)fcp ' (rrl)dtes ' ' rdp ' ' (r)fcp ' (llr)dtes.......

            correct me if im wrong on the denotation please.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDA7_zZWFGo
            OK, if you want to be accurate, you are adding the Front Circle Punch (FCP) after the DTES. It's a nice combo, and this is the correct notation.

            from your starting single fist pass through FCP ' ' RSP ' '..

            .... DTES ' FCP ' ' RDP ' ' DTES ' FCP ' ' RDP ' ' ...repeat.

            Fist, Elbow order.

            RLL ' R ' ' R-L(RDP) ' ' LRR ' L ' ' L-R (RDP) ' '

            Least ways, that's the way I see it.
            Last edited by Speedbag; 02-11-2007, 09:34 PM.
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            • Kevdawg0324
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 146

              #7
              ahhhhhhh, i see. i was adding the circle punch notation at the front instead of the end, right?

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              • Speedbag
                Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                • Feb 2006
                • 7109

                #8
                Originally posted by Kevdawg0324 View Post
                ahhhhhhh, i see. i was adding the circle punch notation at the front instead of the end, right?
                Exactly.

                the lead fist of your DTES is circling back to add the extra FCP.
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                • Kevdawg0324
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 146

                  #9
                  would you call this a combo or technique? and is a dtes only a dtes when the fcp is at the front of the sequence instead of the end?

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                  • Speedbag
                    Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7109

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kevdawg0324 View Post
                    would you call this a combo or technique?
                    I would call this an advanced front punching combination. this would occur easily with three rebounds (triplet rhythm) in between. You have sped it up to one rebound.

                    Originally posted by Kevdawg0324 View Post
                    ....is a dtes only a dtes when the fcp is at the front of the sequence instead of the end?
                    In my system, Yes. There is a way to do a DTES with a leading downward elbow and put the fists on at the end, but it is a slighlty awkward motion

                    In my writing it would be: Downward Double ES, (D-DES) with a Front Circle punch by the other fist after one rebound. It is a Downward Elbow - Fist - Fist contact. It is surely possible, but just doesn't flow smoothly together. So I would say that In my system of notation, the DTES is always a Fist-Downward Elbow Fist, and the fists connect the little finger side of the fist.
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                    • Kevdawg0324
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 146

                      #11
                      thank you for clearing that up for me. i need the get your advanced combos dvd.

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                      • Speedbag
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                        • Feb 2006
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                        #12
                        KevDawg combo

                        Actually, Kevdawg, if you add "the other fist" into the mix, you could be doing a DTES ' FDP combo.

                        DTES ' FCP. let the middle fist also circle back to make it an

                        fist-Elbow-Fist - Fist - Fist

                        DTES ' FDP

                        R L L ' R-L(FDP)

                        it will feel like a three punch fist roll at the end.
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                        • Kevdawg0324
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                          • Oct 2006
                          • 146

                          #13
                          thats so funny that you mention that because i was actually doing that before i made the video! ill post that one tomorrow. i did it on accident a few times.

                          i just went outside and did a fist roll in between the dtes.
                          Last edited by Kevdawg0324; 02-11-2007, 10:02 PM.

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                          • Speedbag
                            Author of the Speed Bag Bible, founder of speedbagcentral.com

                            • Feb 2006
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kevdawg0324 View Post
                            thats so funny that you mention that because i was actually doing that before i made the video! ill post that one tomorrow. i did it on accident a few times.
                            I found MANY combinations by accident. Missing a punch or just screwing up and accidently pulled something off.
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                            • Kevdawg0324
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 146

                              #15
                              thats exactly what happened to me. when i do combos, a lot of the time i dont even think about it anymore. it just comes off of my arms like muscle memory and i dont even have to try, it just goes. and my body wanted to do the left and right punches at the end of the dtes. i actually had to force myself to do one punch instead of two. weird isnt it?

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