Help a drummer build a bag stand for a drum set!

[toolboxdiver]

U Bolts? Attach drum? Drum, meaning platform? this gets confusing when we are talking about putting a drum for punch drumming within a set of drums!
haha.... please explain how U Bolts would secure the plat to the scaf if that is what you meant... thanks...
I really want to make this happen... but it has to be secure or else I'll look like a jackass from the 70's on the Gong Show! And .. we may even have a gong behind the kit... and that would be oh so wrong!
haha...
thanks for all the tips!!!!!!
BAG ON!!!!

yes brian I meant use the U bolts to attach the platform to the pipe, if you go through the wood you will need to cut off the excess but if you have a piece of wood or metal on top of the platform the U bolts can mount to that and it would be easier to take apart and put together.

[spinsmashpop]

yes brian I meant use the U bolts to attach the platform to the pipe, if you go through the wood you will need to cut off the excess but if you have a piece of wood or metal on top of the platform the U bolts can mount to that and it would be easier to take apart and put together.

Thanks for the drawings Toolbox...
While doing this, I always have to keep a couple things in mind...
1. What may work best for the bag may not be the best for the show..
...I can't expect techs to set up tubes and all that around a kit for one small part of the show...
... I can't have a whole contraption of tubes .. poles, etc... around the kit that is set up for the whole show... people will be like "why is all that there?"
or ... the platform is there all night above my head and they are like "what the hell is that:"... then I finally attach the bag, hit it, and that's that..
.... that's anticlimactic... and would really detract from the show...
I know a musician who has a shaved head except for one 3 foot dread from the top of his head.. he plays .. and starts swinging his dread around and he is not the singer .. and it doens't matter what song he is playing ...
he thinks he is doing his "schtick" and will get noticed. but with who he plays with , he looks way out of place and most people comment negatively on it...
If it was his band and his songs and his vibe, fine.. but he plays with a guy that is a legend...and has a couple songs on classic rock radio that are huge...
the guy doesn't seem to mind, but all the fans do....
SO ... anything that detracts from the show is annoying...
That is why I need to start with a steel or heavy duty tube that come up form the drummer's right side of kit... goes up about 7-8 feet... then turns in a bit above the right side of kit... ( the platform is attached to it ) ....
I will be standing behind kit while I do this.. I wil be angled to the right of kit a bit... with my left foot operating the bass drum pedal, (usually the right foot does that) ...but to reach bag, I switch feet... I do not need the bag to be centered at all ... that's why it's fine to be above the right side of kit, (drummer's perspective)....
I t does not have to have a long extended arm to get to me to hit it... ...just long enough to have the plat attached to it... this all decreases the amount of "shake"... but stilll... it won't be fastened from many angles... it has to mainly get its strength and support from the main steel pole/tube coming up from drum rise...
And ... the pole/tibe has to be attached to drum riser floor or side of riser in a super sturdy way secure way to insure stability while baggin...
these are the mina problems to overcome...
thanks..
B

[Biff]

BT, sorry I can't help out. But let us know if this comes to pass. I'd like to be part of this speed bag history moment.

[toolboxdiver]

Thanks for the drawings Toolbox...
While doing this, I always have to keep a couple things in mind...
1. What may work best for the bag may not be the best for the show..
...I can't expect techs to set up tubes and all that around a kit for one small part of the show...
... I can't have a whole contraption of tubes .. poles, etc... around the kit that is set up for the whole show... people will be like "why is all that there?"
or ... the platform is there all night above my head and they are like "what the hell is that:"... then I finally attach the bag, hit it, and that's that..
.... that's anticlimactic... and would really detract from the show...
I know a musician who has a shaved head except for one 3 foot dread from the top of his head.. he plays .. and starts swinging his dread around and he is not the singer .. and it doens't matter what song he is playing ...
he thinks he is doing his "schtick" and will get noticed. but with who he plays with , he looks way out of place and most people comment negatively on it...
If it was his band and his songs and his vibe, fine.. but he plays with a guy that is a legend...and has a couple songs on classic rock radio that are huge...
the guy doesn't seem to mind, but all the fans do....
SO ... anything that detracts from the show is annoying...
That is why I need to start with a steel or heavy duty tube that come up form the drummer's right side of kit... goes up about 7-8 feet... then turns in a bit above the right side of kit... ( the platform is attached to it ) ....
I will be standing behind kit while I do this.. I wil be angled to the right of kit a bit... with my left foot operating the bass drum pedal, (usually the right foot does that) ...but to reach bag, I switch feet... I do not need the bag to be centered at all ... that's why it's fine to be above the right side of kit, (drummer's perspective)....
I t does not have to have a long extended arm to get to me to hit it... ...just long enough to have the plat attached to it... this all decreases the amount of "shake"... but stilll... it won't be fastened from many angles... it has to mainly get its strength and support from the main steel pole/tube coming up from drum rise...
And ... the pole/tibe has to be attached to drum riser floor or side of riser in a super sturdy way secure way to insure stability while baggin...
these are the mina problems to overcome...
thanks..
B

let me see what else I can come up with Brian, I'll put the thinking cap on for this

[sparrky37]

There is that tubular aluminum scaffolding for tours right??? For lighting, and other tech stuff? I just seen this on Ringside website check it out!

http://www.ringside.com/Pole-Mounted-Speed-Bag-Platform/productinfo/SBPLAT+7/

It has circular u-bolts that should attach well to the scaffolding. Then ironing vibration if any would be the next step!

[Inkspill]

Might be time to put that old patent to use for the setup you wear/strap into and carry around. Get some lights on it and you're off!

[spinsmashpop]

There is that tubular aluminum scaffolding for tours right??? For lighting, and other tech stuff? I just seen this on Ringside website check it out!

http://www.ringside.com/Pole-Mounted-Speed-Bag-Platform/productinfo/SBPLAT+7/

It has circular u-bolts that should attach well to the scaffolding. Then ironing vibration if any would be the next step!

Thanks Sparrky!
This is very cool.... I am going to look into this ...
Had no idea anyone made a plat fit to be attached to a pole!
Thanks!

[sparrky37]

Glad I could help!

Thanks Sparrky!
This is very cool.... I am going to look into this ...
Had no idea anyone made a plat fit to be attached to a pole!
Thanks!

[Speedbag]

There is that tubular aluminum scaffolding for tours right??? For lighting, and other tech stuff? I just seen this on Ringside website check it out!

http://www.ringside.com/Pole-Mounted-Speed-Bag-Platform/productinfo/SBPLAT+7/

It has circular u-bolts that should attach well to the scaffolding. Then ironing vibration if any would be the next step!

This looks like it would work great, and could easily be fitted to add a top attachment (eye bolt or hook) to the board top for some type of side stablization (if needed). You could have one strap or iron stabilizer going to the side away from the crowd. On my old free standing floor frame I found that one stabilizer strap going to the side added a lot of stability. Two was better but one made it useable.

YeeooW this is gonna be cool. I predicts Riots at future Whitesnake concerts!
(peaceful, of course..)

[spinsmashpop]

This looks like it would work great, and could easily be fitted to add a top attachment (eye bolt or hook) to the board top for some type of side stablization (if needed). You could have one strap or iron stabilizer going to the side away from the crowd. On my old free standing floor frame I found that one stabilizer strap going to the side added a lot of stability. Two was better but one made it useable.

YeeooW this is gonna be cool. I predicts Riots at future Whitesnake concerts!
(peaceful, of course..)

My drum tech is long time friend Bag Shed Kid. He doesn't post at all here, but he has a bag and plat and understands what it takes. We agreed this Ringside plat attached to a pole could be the way to go. And he has ideas on how to secure it to the drum riser....
WE'll see....

[Speedbag]

My drum tech is long time friend Bag Shed Kid. He doesn't post at all here, but he has a bag and plat and understands what it takes. We agreed this Ringside plat attached to a pole could be the way to go. And he has ideas on how to secure it to the drum riser....
WE'll see....

Rock and Speed Bag History Awaits !!.......

[toolboxdiver]

Rock and Speed Bag History Awaits !!.......

inquirrering minds want to know the outcome, good luck Brian hope to catch ya at a Philly show

[spinsmashpop]

Rock and Speed Bag History Awaits !!.......

Hopefully we get it together.....

inquirrering minds want to know the outcome, good luck Brian hope to catch ya at a Philly show

Let me know if you can make it and I'll do my best to get ya all hooked up!

[toolboxdiver]

Let me know if you can make it and I'll do my best to get ya all hooked up!

Hey Brian did ya book any Philly or Camden NJ dates either would be really close.

[spd20]

Were you able to pull this drum/bag solo off? If so, would love to see footage of it.

Randy Jackson's China Rain. Thumbs up.