Introduction and question..

[ryanmross]

Hello,
I've been a casual user of this site for the past couple of years..
I had a basic set-up in my last house, and got ideas for this forum.
I since moved (and sold all of the equipment) into a condo, and thought my speed bagging days were over. (or I would find a local place)

It's been a year, and I got the bug. I miss it and need to do something about it.
My fear is upsetting the neighbors. No local places available (nearby).

I found the best location in my unit.
I live on the top floor. There is a corner in my bedroom that has two external walls. I figure this would cause the least amount of noise.. the rest of the walls feel cheap with their metal studs every 24".

I plan to mount two horizontal 2x6's to the wall, before mounting the platform to those.. as suggested here.
(I narrowed down my platform to the I-box, again from discussions here.. thank you)

I read how some mount thick carpet between the wood & the drywall..
I searched.. but I have not seen if anyone has used sound deadening material, such as vinyl sheets.. (the non-asphalt kind).
Similar to the well known Dynamat, or the type found here:
http://www.parts-express.com

I was also thinking it might make sense to place strips of this on the top, and inner walls of the frame of the i-box, and even atop the drum to reduce resonance.

It's self-stick, easy to apply.. dense.. might look nicer than bits of shag rug stuck to my wall..

Any thoughts, or experience with this or similar material?

And, finally, thank you for the wealth of knowledge, and passion!
-Ryan

[StevieMac]

Hi Ryan,

I used some 1/8” think rubber matting behind the 2x6s I mounted my I-Box to. My thread on the install is here if you haven’t already seen it http://www.speedbagforum.com/forums/...ead.php?t=3069
I don’t know that Dynamat would do any better than carpet or what I used but I’d think some type of cushion between the boards and the wall is a good idea if you want to reduce vibration and noise. The wall doesn’t seem to vibrate much with my setup.

The I-Box frame is pretty solid but Dynamat stuck on it couldn’t hurt I guess. I did briefly consider filling the square tubing with sand but never did.

You’ll want the drum itself to vibrate as little as possible so a thicker drum with a heavy sandbag on top would probably be a good idea.

The smaller bags cause less vibration and noise than larger ones so if you have some experience and can comfortably use a smaller bag I’d say that’s probably a good idea.

In the end it will probably depend on how tolerant your neighbours are. It doesn’t take much to piss some people off.

Good luck and welcome to the forum.

Steve

[jumpcannon]

I dont wanna sound negative, but my gut tells me no matter what you do to try and reduce noise/vibration is not gonna work. I think its still gonna make enough noise to disturb the piece (sorta like a car with big subwoofers). If you do find a way to keep it quiet then let us know! Good luck and keep researching. You may find a good way.

[Tim]

Hello,
I've been a casual user of this site for the past couple of years..
I had a basic set-up in my last house, and got ideas for this forum.
I since moved (and sold all of the equipment) into a condo, and thought my speed bagging days were over. (or I would find a local place)

Welcome to the forum!

I can't speak for the materials mounting to the wall, but another way to keep the noise down is use a U-BOLT or PLASTIC BALL HOOK , and a SMALL speed bag. SMALLER = less inertia and less noise, less vibration.

I would also recommend not bagging after 9pm at night

Good luck!

[ryanmross]

Thanks for the feedback.
I ordered the i-box, and a 5x8" TITLE Boxing Gyro Balanced Speed Bag (on sale).

A sand bag for sure, and I like the 9pm rule, that's fair.
I'll see how the swivel that comes with the i-box does.. they say it is now the Everlast Pro 4444 swivel..? and I will replace if it is crazy.

I'm off to a good restart.

Thanks again,
-Ryan

[StevieMac]

My I-Box shipped with an Everlast chain link swivel.

[Tim]

I'll see how the swivel that comes with the i-box does.. they say it is now the Everlast Pro 4444 swivel..? and I will replace if it is crazy.

My I-Box shipped with an Everlast chain link swivel.

The last three four i-Box units I saw (the ones at SPEED B.A.G. 2010) all came with the 4444 chain link swivel.

[Speedbag]

Hello,
I've been a casual user of this site for the past couple of years..
I had a basic set-up in my last house, and got ideas for this forum.
I since moved (and sold all of the equipment) into a condo, and thought my speed bagging days were over. (or I would find a local place)

It's been a year, and I got the bug. I miss it and need to do something about it.
My fear is upsetting the neighbors. No local places available (nearby).

I found the best location in my unit.
I live on the top floor. There is a corner in my bedroom that has two external walls. I figure this would cause the least amount of noise.. the rest of the walls feel cheap with their metal studs every 24".

I plan to mount two horizontal 2x6's to the wall, before mounting the platform to those.. as suggested here.
(I narrowed down my platform to the I-box, again from discussions here.. thank you)

I read how some mount thick carpet between the wood & the drywall..
I searched.. but I have not seen if anyone has used sound deadening material, such as vinyl sheets.. (the non-asphalt kind).
Similar to the well known Dynamat, or the type found here:
http://www.parts-express.com

I was also thinking it might make sense to place strips of this on the top, and inner walls of the frame of the i-box, and even atop the drum to reduce resonance.

It's self-stick, easy to apply.. dense.. might look nicer than bits of shag rug stuck to my wall..

Any thoughts, or experience with this or similar material?

And, finally, thank you for the wealth of knowledge, and passion!
-Ryan

Hi Ryan. Welcome to the forum.

I am interpreting your statement

"...I found the best location in my unit.
I live on the top floor. There is a corner in my bedroom that has two external walls. .....

to mean that these two external walls are on the corner of the building, so there is NO apartment on either side of the those two walls or on your same floor. Since you're on the TOP floor, your main neighbor affected is living underneath you. Is that correct? Perhaps I am missing something but that is what it sounds like.

In that case the noise might be buffered by some padded flooring underneath. The neighbors below may hear some rumble and rebound, but I don't think that would be as bad as if they were directly behind that wall attachment.

If you know the people living in there you might want to ask them how sounds and if there is a time that might be better for you to use it.
If you don't know them, then this might be a good time to break that ice. Maybe they would like to learn the bag and you can get some training partners.

Good luck in any case and I'm glad you gettin' back to baggin.

[PIEFURZ]

Welcome back to bagging. I live in an apartment with neighbors above and below. I'm on the end with a walk in closet that was going to be a third elevator shaft. I tipped a salvage dresser over and mounted an adjustable Everlast board to the top. I have to sit on the floor to bag. The sound is transfered to the floor. I don't bag a lot on it and haven't gotten any complaints but I haven't asked down stairs either. They may just blame it on the elevators. Anyway, what is the construction of the exterior walls that you are thinking of mounting on? My apartment has brick exterior and Sheetrock interior. There is a chance that the Sheetrock is on furrier strips and not studs. If so you may need to mount into brick or whatever the exterior wall is. I wouldn't mount into the exterior wall on the chance that it gets damaged, this affects the structure of the main building. Could crack, leak, break out bricks etc. I saw where someone in Australia makes a speedbag stand that looks like a tall table that looks promising, would have to go look for it again. Good luck, keep us posted.

[ryanmross]

Hi Ryan. Welcome to the forum.

I am interpreting your statement

"...I found the best location in my unit.
I live on the top floor. There is a corner in my bedroom that has two external walls. .....

to mean that these two external walls are on the corner of the building, so there is NO apartment on either side of the those two walls or on your same floor. Since you're on the TOP floor, your main neighbor affected is living underneath you. Is that correct? Perhaps I am missing something but that is what it sounds like.

In that case the noise might be buffered by some padded flooring underneath. The neighbors below may hear some rumble and rebound, but I don't think that would be as bad as if they were directly behind that wall attachment.

If you know the people living in there you might want to ask them how sounds and if there is a time that might be better for you to use it.
If you don't know them, then this might be a good time to break that ice. Maybe they would like to learn the bag and you can get some training partners.

Good luck in any case and I'm glad you gettin' back to baggin.

Hi Alan, I'm not sure you received my email, I am interested in your video.
Let me know what to do.

One of the exterior walls of my corner belong to my balcony.. the balcony is in the center of my West facing exterior wall.. then the wall comes in 4 feet forming my corner, across the length of the balcony, back out 4 feet, and continues along.. (I'm not sure if that made any sense, I should post a pic of the floor plan)

The walls that divide me from my neighbors are cinder block, then normal wall stuff. I never hear them. One neighbor came over to let me know he was going to hang some photos & be hammering... I never heard a thing.
(that was polite of him..) I like you idea of letting them know what I'll be doing & ask them to let me know if it is annoying.

No one above me. And currently no one below.. but that will probably be the one I need to worry about the most.

I hung the i-Box today! The padding I got for it has not arrived yet, so I still need to add that. What I purchased was mass-loaded-vinyl tape with foam... Should absorb act as a decoupling layer.
And tomorrow I will bring sand home.
I used horizontal 2x4s.. mounted to the metal studs that were 24"o.c., with 1/4" SNAPTOGGLE Heavy Duty Toggle Bolts through the studs.

.... I did briefly consider filling the square tubing with sand but never did.....

Stevie, I am thinking about using expanding foam in the tubes.. or some of the extra tape..

My prior set-up was in an open basement.. this thing is in my bedroom.. the swivel is the same, but SO much LOUDER in this environment!

It did come with the chain swivel. I have already reached out to JumpCannon about his swivel.

I am also considering adding Acoustic Panels on the walls near me at ear level.
Hopefully this will take the edge off of what I hear..

It's all experimental, but at least I can say I am trying my best to be considerate.. and not feel self conscious about the noise, so I can focus.

[PIEFURZ]

So you did hang it on an exterior wall and not a wall between you and neghbors and you said it is a stud wall. Sound dampening between the mount and wall may not be necessary but it may limit damage to the wall. I think that you're right in adding sound proofing to the room will help with cut down on the overall sound. Some rooms will actually echo if you don't trap the sound. Hope you like the new board.

[Speedbag]

Hi Alan, I'm not sure you received my email, I am interested in your video.
Let me know what to do.

Yes I did and answered. Hope you got it.

Sounds like a good solid setup. Good luck with it.

[ryanmross]

Adding the sand made a huge difference muffling the sound, but especially the clank of chain swivel, I'm much happier.
I got 40lbs of play sand from Menards, and divided it evenly into 4 doubled plastic shopping bags. Then placed each one onto a 'quarter' of the drum pie, spreading it's weight low & wide, with as much coverage as possible...versus putting the one 40lb bag resting on the bars above the drum.. that helped, but not as much as spreading it like this.

-Ryan

[Biff]

Hey Ryan, welcome to the forum. Hope all worked out for you. Post up some pix of your setup when you get a chance.

[StevieMac]

Glad to hear you got things setup. Looking forward to some pictures.

Any feedback from the neighbours yet?