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[QUOTE=Speedbag;9276]Originally posted by spinsmashpop View PostAK...I gotta agree with you. I love the sound of the bag. I love the natural rhythms. And we all know how cool it sounds when its hit in the right place at the right time. I was just diggin' on Paulie D's technique. I did think, at first, it would be killer to hear how it sounds. The Skunk has a few vids where he overdubbed music and it takes away from the mightiness of the bag rhythm and his stellar control. I think some background music is ok if you are punching and can hear both. I know the rhythms will be off if its random punching over music. Maybe it can be looked at as some kind of "be bop" or "avant garde" punching! Jimmy Page's guitar solos can get like that too. He isn't locked in rhythmically. It's sporadic, off the cuff, in the moment outbursts of improv, and I love it. The only difference is that is a melodic free form type of thing. The bag is all rhythm.
So there's 2 more cents of mine![/QUOTE]
Great. Two more cents. Now I'm up to a dime.
just kidding. I never thought about that with Jimmy Page guitar.
my problem is I start putting a bag beat to it immediately.
By the way, when we gonna see and hear you on the Guitar. ??
There are some clips on youtube of Idol live where we play Mony Mony and our security guard Toast gets on the drums and I get on guitar. Me and Billy's gtr. player, Steve Stevens do a little guitar battle in the middle of the song. It's a lot of fun for me to come out and try to shred a bit on gtr.
Hopefully there'll be a lot more than that in the near future....
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[QUOTE=spinsmashpop;9265]AK...I gotta agree with you. I love the sound of the bag. I love the natural rhythms. And we all know how cool it sounds when its hit in the right place at the right time. I was just diggin' on Paulie D's technique. I did think, at first, it would be killer to hear how it sounds. The Skunk has a few vids where he overdubbed music and it takes away from the mightiness of the bag rhythm and his stellar control. I think some background music is ok if you are punching and can hear both. I know the rhythms will be off if its random punching over music. Maybe it can be looked at as some kind of "be bop" or "avant garde" punching! Jimmy Page's guitar solos can get like that too. He isn't locked in rhythmically. It's sporadic, off the cuff, in the moment outbursts of improv, and I love it. The only difference is that is a melodic free form type of thing. The bag is all rhythm.
So there's 2 more cents of mine![/QUOTE]
Great. Two more cents. Now I'm up to a dime.
just kidding. I never thought about that with Jimmy Page guitar.
my problem is I start putting a bag beat to it immediately.
By the way, when we gonna see and hear you on the Guitar. ??
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Originally posted by Speedbag View PostYes Paulie D is very smooth and has a great mix of combinations. He does a lot of Front Double Punch "lead" fist linking as well as "second fist" linking, which is a bit more difficult. I do enjoy watching him. My only gig is that there is no bag sound. I would love to see and HEAR that bag clip without the music. To tell the truth, I watched it several times on mute an follow his combo's to hear his bag beat in my head.
Yeah, I'm probably a party pooper, but if your not punch drumming the speed bag too music, I rather not have the music disturbing the bag beat. Rhythms that are "out of sync" and off beat are painful to my ears. My natural inclination is to use the bag contact to sense their timing. You can tell a really sweet punch from an early or late one.
But no doubt he is a very talented bagger and has put in many hours under the board. You've heard Arnold talk about the "Discipline of Steel"? (hour after hour, day after day, in the weight room). I think Paulie D has definitely learned the "Discipline of Bag". I'd like to see and hear him punch to music.
I bet he's "got beat".
Hey, I like that. "Got Beat?"
So there's 2 more cents of mine!
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Originally posted by spinsmashpop View PostYes, I'm gonna keep moving on all this. But I still just try to find the time to get under the board and work on flow and technique. The upcoming holidays and all make your free time level decrease.
AK, how 'bout that youtube clip of Paulie D??!! Super smooth! He's so fun to watch.
Yes Paulie D is very smooth and has a great mix of combinations. He does a lot of Front Double Punch "lead" fist linking as well as "second fist" linking, which is a bit more difficult. I do enjoy watching him. My only gig is that there is no bag sound. I would love to see and HEAR that bag clip without the music. To tell the truth, I watched it several times on mute an follow his combo's to hear his bag beat in my head.
Yeah, I'm probably a party pooper, but if your not punch drumming the speed bag too music, I rather not have the music disturbing the bag beat. Rhythms that are "out of sync" and off beat are painful to my ears. My natural inclination is to use the bag contact to sense their timing. You can tell a really sweet punch from an early or late one.
But no doubt he is a very talented bagger and has put in many hours under the board. You've heard Arnold talk about the "Discipline of Steel"? (hour after hour, day after day, in the weight room). I think Paulie D has definitely learned the "Discipline of Bag". I'd like to see and hear him punch to music.
I bet he's "got beat".
Hey, I like that. "Got Beat?"
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Originally posted by Speedbag View PostMaybe not. Most people do well to separate the hands. Your ability to control and manipulate various rhythmic grooves with hands AND feet is really going to add another dimension to all this. Just imagine what you'll be doing with the bag in another few months, and mixing in the foot patterns of kick drums, cymbals and other foot driven rhythm instruments. (Years ago when I play drum sets myself, I could separate my hands and feet - but I've been away too long. Now my feet now end up following my hands. I'd have to start back again on basic hand-foot drills to gain independence.)
When you learn more techniques and combos, and learn to separate the hands to any side of the bag and to improvise sounds and beats around the bag, You're going to take this to a whole new level.
and then your twins can bring the boys (and their dads) over to watch the show.
But get ready, BT. when they see and hear it, you know they're going to want you to teach them.
AK, how 'bout that youtube clip of Paulie D??!! Super smooth! He's so fun to watch.
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Originally posted by Whippet View PostI miss stuff like that. My daughter just turned 19 last week. And twins! Both daughters too! When they start bringing lads home and the boys catch site of dad working the bag, the first word they are guaranteed to say to you will be "sir".
Dennis
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A long hard road you wouldn't trade for anything!
I miss stuff like that. My daughter just turned 19 last week. And twins! Both daughters too! When they start bringing lads home and the boys catch site of dad working the bag, the first word they are guaranteed to say to you will be "sir".
Dennis
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Originally posted by spinsmashpop View PostDrums... 30 years..... Speed Bag.... 3 months.....AK, maybe I should stick to your suggestion .....
When you learn more techniques and combos, and learn to separate the hands to any side of the bag and to improvise sounds and beats around the bag, You're going to take this to a whole new level.
and then your twins can bring the boys (and their dads) over to watch the show.
But get ready, BT. when they see and hear it, you know they're going to want you to teach them.
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Just Kiddin! I'm a joker, not a fighter!....
Originally posted by Speedbag View PostGeez, your tough. OK, if their Dad can't do the Punch Drumming bit on the speed bag, give 'em a second chance with Real Drums.
take them to your set, show them this (live), smileand say "your turn".
(yeah, right...)
If they can't do that, just ask them to do the stick flip.
(in front 10,000 people..)
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Originally posted by spinsmashpop View PostYup, 2 girls... I'm not looking forward to when the boys start comin' round..we all know to well how WE were, and I'll take that knowledge and expertise to my full advantage!
Maybe they'll have to prove themselves on the bag first!
"Hey punk! Give me some O-TES's and reverse side punches into a fist roll or get the *&%$ outta here! Come back after you've purchased and studied AK''s Bible and DVD's! I want to see some Skunk speed and a degree before you even look at my kid! And while you're at it, bring your Dad over for some punch drumming!"hahaha..... hey...this may be a reality!
take them to your set, show them this (live), smileand say "your turn".
(yeah, right...)
If they can't do that, just ask them to do the stick flip.
(in front 10,000 people..)
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Twins
Originally posted by Biff View PostShe's a cutie!!
And you have two???? God bless you. As Alan said, you'll have your hands full.
Maybe they'll have to prove themselves on the bag first!
"Hey punk! Give me some O-TES's and reverse side punches into a fist roll or get the *&%$ outta here! Come back after you've purchased and studied AK''s Bible and DVD's! I want to see some Skunk speed and a degree before you even look at my kid! And while you're at it, bring your Dad over for some punch drumming!" hahaha..... hey...this may be a reality!
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Kids 'n bags!
Originally posted by Speedbag View PostWow, you got your hands full with that one. She is gonna be handful (if she's not already)
nice bag, too. I see it's a 9x6
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She's a cutie!!
And you have two???? God bless you. As Alan said, you'll have your hands full.
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Wow, you got your hands full with that one. She is gonna be handful (if she's not already)
nice bag, too. I see it's a 9x6
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