Originally posted by Tim
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The "advanced" Front Double Punch (FDP) combo is just a quicker version of the normal FDP combo.
The "normal" FDP combo means two FDP's (or more if you want..) occur in the Triplet Rhythm with three rebounds in between. It looks like this:
L-R........R-L
FDP ' ' ' FDP - - - - (note 3 rebounds = ' ' ' )
It is impotant to notice a couple of things here. First, the second or Bold fist R & L will be louder or "accented" over the lead fist. This can't be changed. (The last fist of ANY technique will always be the loudest. That is a law of the speed bag) Second, notice in the middle of the combo, the Right Fist hits twice in a Row.. or L-R...R-L.
These things happen in the FDP combo automatically, without any intention on your part. This "normal" FDP combo works fine when punching to music just like it is. Just time the second fist to land "on the beat" of the music. I do that x8 in the opening segment, from 42 sec - 46 sec, timing the second fist to hit ON the music beat in the triplet rhythm. then I change and do the same thing in the Double Bounce Rhythm, using the Reverse Double Punch. LIke this: FDP ' ' RDP. ( the principle is the same. The second fist lands ON the song beat.) Using multiple Front Double Punches in the Triplet Rhythm requires that I Punch slight harder and faster, because the bag has to make 4 rebounds before the second fist hits the "accented punch" ON the song beat. When using the FDP ' ' RDP combo, The bag only has to make 2 rebounds, so I don't have to punch as fast to make the beats match.
NOW in the ADVANCED FDP combo, I am speeding up the FDP combo, or "advancing" it from 3 rebounds inbetween to 1 rebound in between. It looks like this:
L-R....R-L
FDP ' FDP - - - - (note 1 rebound = ' ' ' )
All same side "advanced punching combinations" will use 1 rebound instead of the normal 3. It is harder (more advanced) and takes more bag and fist control.
WHY would I do this? Very Simple. When hitting to music (Punch Drumming) I am trying to create bag beats in time to the music, kind of like a syncopated bag (drum) solo. I use the techiques, combinations, and SOUNDS or beat patterns they create, to sync up with the music. It's creative.
The Advanced FDP combo creates an interesting accent beat pattern that I cannot create any other way, and it has to do with the accent pattern created by the fists repetitively hitting the bag. note the sound pattern I add underneath.
L-R....R-L
FDP ' FDP - - - - (note 1 rebound = ' )
d-D...d-D
Keep in mind: these four fists hit with only 1 rebound in between, ....or like this: L ' R ' R ' L
In this Pendulum song between 1m54s-1m56sec, I do three of them in a row, (I normally do 3 or 5 of them to match the beat). It happens very quick and is hard to see the individual punches. Doing three FDP in a row with only 1 rebound inbetween creates this stuttered accented sound pattern. d-D...d-D...d-D, and there can only be one rebound inbetween to make this work.
What other technique or combo allows for 6 punches with only one rebound in between?? The Front Fist Roll. But there is a big difference. The fist accents in a Fist Roll are all even, not stuttered.
Fist Roll fists:.... R-L-R-L-R-L
Sound pattern...D-D-D-D-D-D
Desired sound....d-D-d-D-d-D
So, to create the stuttered beat pattern I want (very much like a "stroke-bounce" Drum sticking pattern), I have to use advanced Front Double Punching to get the repetitive single rebound stuttered accent pattern.
It sounds really great when you can hear it, particularly when you pull it off for 5 or 7 times in a row. I had the music in this video clip just a little too loud, so it doesn't really stand out to much
The best way to get into an advanced FDP combo is either during the "normal" FDP triplet rhythm combo, then go to one rebound for a few, or just after a Front Fist Roll, continuing the single rebound bag and use the Fist order of the FDP to create the accented beats. I do that here in "Get the Party Started 4m 46sec (* L-R-R-L-L-R: You can hear the bag beat this creates better in this clip)
I have never been able to create this stuttered single beat pattern while rolling the fists. Trying to accent every other punch will change the speed of the Roll and your Roll will quickly fall apart. The advanced FDP movement is more of a quick chopping movement, and requires each fist hits twice in a row before changing.
Here is the fist order and accent pattern for practice.
L-R ' R-L ' L-R ' R-L ' L-R
Good luck, and don't make it harder than it is....
PS: Check the swivel in the Pendulum video clip. I am using the newly modified shorter Boxing Gear Swivel. This is actually the first time I have used it to hit with music.
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