Shoe string swivel

[jojojunfan]

Good morning! I purchased a couple of everlast ball-hook swivels last week on clearance. Since I had an extra, it became experiment time. I took the part that the bag clips into off and put in a heavy string from a sweat-shirt. I got the idea from you guys. Someone said they were on a " shoe string" budget. It works really well and i can remove my bag easily when I am done. Thanks for the tip. I was also wondering where to find the right type of carabiner. One that has a triangular shape like SKUNKS would be great. Thanks.

[jumpcannon]

i have endless hours in looking for carabiners. i even called everlast to see if they sell them seperately. if you find a source let me know.

[Tim]

Good morning! I purchased a couple of everlast ball-hook swivels last week on clearance. Since I had an extra, it became experiment time. I took the part that the bag clips into off and put in a heavy string from a sweat-shirt. I got the idea from you guys. Someone said they were on a " shoe string" budget. It works really well and i can remove my bag easily when I am done. Thanks for the tip. I was also wondering where to find the right type of carabiner. One that has a triangular shape like SKUNKS would be great. Thanks.

I don't know of any place that is selling the carabiner swivels. They could be bought at Sports Authority for a very short amount of time... however if you are making your own, Home Depot or Lowes should have a variety of carabiners.

[PIEFURZ]

Didn't find a triangle carabiner but check out boating stores also. I found a shackle that works on a chain link swivel that I like better than the chain link. Also got cotter rings for the pin on it. They are like a small key chain ring but won't work their way off. Check their catalogs for more ideas. Should be good parts but pricey.

[Dutchman]

This is when I miss my commercial/industrial credentials. These are available from McMaster Carr, but you have to have an industrial account with them in order to buy.

[toolboxdiver]

This is when I miss my commercial/industrial credentials. These are available from McMaster Carr, but you have to have an industrial account with them in order to buy.

McMaster Carr will ship to anyone, getting one of there catologs is the hard part, but they have everything on line.

[jumpcannon]

I am gonna have to check that place out. All the carabiners i have found have been either too long...or not perfectly horizontal on the bottom (where the bag hangs). I checked with a commercial wirebender company to make my S hooks or carabiners....but they want way to much $$$$$$$$$$$. And another place wanted $9 a piece to make my balls with an order of at least 700....OUCH! Thats why i got countless hours into figuring out how to make this stuff myself at home. Its alot more challenging when this stuff is done by hand compared to CNC machinery.

[SpeedKilz]

I am gonna have to check that place out. All the carabiners i have found have been either too long...or not perfectly horizontal on the bottom (where the bag hangs). I checked with a commercial wirebender company to make my S hooks or carabiners....but they want way to much $$$$$$$$$$$. And another place wanted $9 a piece to make my balls with an order of at least 700....OUCH! Thats why i got countless hours into figuring out how to make this stuff myself at home. Its alot more challenging when this stuff is done by hand compared to CNC machinery.

Out of curiosity are you an engineer? I'm still amazed on how much you put into these swivels you designed and all the research you've put into them. I have my setup in the garage so I go by it every time I have to get into my car and sometimes just hit the bag for 30 seconds on my way in out and I'm still taken back on how great of swivel you made and how shocked I am that it was done privately without the backing of a big company name. A little off topic - sorry - but great job on those swivels and it's awesome seeing that strong of a devotion to something your really enjoy and sharing it with people with a common interest.

[jumpcannon]

No not an engineer. I learned this stuff years ago working one on one with an old man named John Kole. He took me in and when things got slow he laid everybody off and kept me around. He did everything "old school" and didnt have CNC machinery. He was extremely anal about craftmanship and would critique EVERYTHING i did! He ended up closing shop and retiring. Then i went to a CNC shop to learn all that stuff. Cnc machinery can get the job done way faster than manual. It takes alot of the "thinking" process out of making something. I sorta like the manual way though....you gotta think differently. Example is making a radius on a ball. A cnc lathe will follow the radius programmed.....on a manual lathe you have to make your own tool with the exact matching radius. Its too slow and not as perfect as cnc. So i am currently workin on a radial ball turner now. I have to dissasemble the top half of my lathe....design and build a devise that will turn a perfect radius much quicker. Its challenging but i enjoy it. The hard part is research. Not all steel is the same, it all cuts differently, it all cost different, some is softer or harder, some can be treated and some cant. Also tooling.....this stuff cant be purchased at a local hardware shop. So it definately has its challenges. It will only improve from here. I have other ideas i am working on. I will probably never make the same batch the exact same. I gotta change and tinker as i go along. LOL....I babbled enough!

[Avadia]

I learned this stuff years ago working one on one with an old man named John Kole. He took me in and when things got slow he laid everybody off and kept me around. He did everything "old school" and didnt have CNC machinery. He was extremely anal about craftmanship and would critique EVERYTHING i did!

Wow! What a gift that man gave you. Bet you didn't even realize at the time how great a gift it was. But you learned some skills that not many people possess any more.

I will probably never make the same batch the exact same. I gotta change and tinker as i go along. LOL....I babbled enough!

That's the cool part about it to me. Every batch is unique.

[SpeedKilz]

Crazy how much variation there is in such a raw material like metal and all the brain work that has to go into it to manipulate to the blueprint in your head. It's like 2 completely opposite worlds colliding.

[Dutchman]

McMaster Carr will ship to anyone, getting one of there catologs is the hard part, but they have everything on line.

They've changed their rules? Kewl!. I spent the last five years negotiating that website, can practically do it in my sleep.

[toolboxdiver]

They've changed their rules? Kewl!. I spent the last five years negotiating that website, can practically do it in my sleep.

I finally got a old catalog at work when the new one came in.

[jojojunfan]

That is an awesome story! There is no school like the old school. Anyone can run a machine. When you get thinking about designing the parts that make the machines, that make the machines, that make the machines, ect.... That gets mindblowing! Also, thanks for the info everyone. I think i can get a catalog or even a commercial account through my employer, we shall see....

[PIEFURZ]

I got the triangle carabiner with Everlast Hydroboard or like I call it Waterboard as you fill it with water for weight. I don't recommend it btw. The carabiner is part of a plastic ball and eye much like the ball hook. The blue one in the pic came with something I bought. I tried it and sometimes the bag will hang up around the bend but knocks back down. I guess it's possible that it may go up where the strap is horizontal and may need to be brought back down but that may also happen with the triangle one. Everlast may supply you with one of theirs. Boat stores have ones like the blue one in different sizes although maybe heavier but better quality and costly.