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  • jumpcannon
    Creator of the Powermill Evil Swivel

    • Jul 2010
    • 606

    #1

    Everlast metal ball hook

    I was at a new/used/trade sports shop today and found an everlast all metal ballhook today! Thing looks like its barely been used. I guess its the one that the all plastic replaced. Question.....which is preffered? (Metal ball-plastic housing), (Metal housing-plastic ball), or leave it all metal-metal?
    evilswivel@yahoo.com
  • Tim
    Administrator and Founder of SpeedBagForum.com


    • Jan 2006
    • 3500

    #2
    Originally posted by jumpcannon View Post
    I was at a new/used/trade sports shop today and found an everlast all metal ballhook today! Thing looks like its barely been used. I guess its the one that the all plastic replaced. Question.....which is preffered? (Metal ball-plastic housing), (Metal housing-plastic ball), or leave it all metal-metal?
    All plastic. You don't want that sucker, send it to me Just kidding.

    Metal Ball, Plastic Housing is the preferred option. The ball won't float and you don't get metal chips in your eyes.

    I'm a risk taker, I run all metal, but for one reason or another i've never gotten anything SERIOUS in my eye. I have some minor irritation though.

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    • crapshoot
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 135

      #3
      Originally posted by Tim View Post
      ....for one reason or another i've never gotten anything SERIOUS in my eye. I have some minor irritation though.
      That's just from the exhaustion of running this great board, building cages, organizing get-togethers, and bagging like the prince you are!

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      • jumpcannon
        Creator of the Powermill Evil Swivel

        • Jul 2010
        • 606

        #4
        Originally posted by Tim View Post
        All plastic. You don't want that sucker, send it to me Just kidding.

        Metal Ball, Plastic Housing is the preferred option. The ball won't float and you don't get metal chips in your eyes.

        I'm a risk taker, I run all metal, but for one reason or another i've never gotten anything SERIOUS in my eye. I have some minor irritation though.
        thanks for the advise!
        evilswivel@yahoo.com

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        • Roc Stone
          Speed Bag Guru
          • Oct 2007
          • 475

          #5
          I think the main difference is the noise level. The all metal is gonna make a louder noise than the all plastic, but some people like that.

          The all plastic is slower than the all metal but by swapping it with the metal ball it becomes a little faster and smoother.

          I've never tried the plastic ball in the metal housing, but the notion begins to interest me. I'd imagine it would be slightly quieter taking out that grinding noise of the ball and no clunking when you miss hit. The ball would probably wear quicker.

          I might have to sus this one out.
          sigpic'IRON HORSE, LIVE TO RIDE'

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          • jumpcannon
            Creator of the Powermill Evil Swivel

            • Jul 2010
            • 606

            #6
            cool roc....thanks for the input...i just wish this metal ball hook had a larger s hook for my promex loop
            Last edited by jumpcannon; 07-19-2010, 12:14 PM. Reason: added info
            evilswivel@yahoo.com

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            • Roc Stone
              Speed Bag Guru
              • Oct 2007
              • 475

              #7
              Ya!

              I use to have that trouble too. They do make a wider 'S' hook for the plastic model I think, It's just a matter of swaping them over.

              By the way you may just wanna check the length of the eye bolt in the all metal BH swivel, you may have room to jack it up into the ball a bit further to shorten the swing arc. You will need an allen key for this.
              sigpic'IRON HORSE, LIVE TO RIDE'

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              • jumpcannon
                Creator of the Powermill Evil Swivel

                • Jul 2010
                • 606

                #8
                the plastic ball in the metal housing is not any good. the plastic ball scores and starts to grind away. i even honed out my metal housing before hand to get a "smooth" action. well its not "smooth"....lol
                evilswivel@yahoo.com

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                • Tim
                  Administrator and Founder of SpeedBagForum.com


                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3500

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jumpcannon View Post
                  the plastic ball in the metal housing is not any good. the plastic ball scores and starts to grind away. i even honed out my metal housing before hand to get a "smooth" action. well its not "smooth"....lol

                  Also plastic ball will "float" in the housing under certain circumstances as well. Several members have noticed that.

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                  • Roc Stone
                    Speed Bag Guru
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 475

                    #10
                    ... Dang!
                    sigpic'IRON HORSE, LIVE TO RIDE'

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                    • jumpcannon
                      Creator of the Powermill Evil Swivel

                      • Jul 2010
                      • 606

                      #11
                      ok....the metal ball in the plastic housing is the way to go! i actually like hitting my larger bag on this setup. and my small bag on the ubolt.
                      evilswivel@yahoo.com

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                      • TJ_MaTee
                        Senior Member

                         
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 316

                        #12
                        Skunk had 2 different swiv setups that he modified. One was an old everlast chain/link housing (which was low profile-space between board and where the ball seats is shallow). Anyway he shaved the plastic ball down on "top" so it had room.
                        The second swiv he made from an everlast "U" bolt. The housing is narrower and hangs down low. For this Skunk had to shave down the plastic ball so its diameter fit into the housing. Also he used a "carbiner (or whatever those mountain climbing clips are called) instead of a hook. I hit them both in NJ. They seemed to work fine. Skunk would be able to tell you about "floating" etc. since he's hit them way more than myself.
                        Anyway, Good luck, and BAG ON!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        T.J. MaTEE'[/U][/U] u:

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