So I noticed the carabiners on most all metal water containers were symmetrical. So I decided to convert my S hook to one to see. So far so good. I had used an angle grinder to remove the S hook. The carabiner is a light weight aluminum not for sure how it will hold up over time. will keep you posted on that. It is about quarter to half inch longer than S.
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sparrky, I have a stainless steel carabiner shaped like the red one you show on the bottle, so it is symmetrical in shape. It also has the steel as the same diameter of my S hook. The problem I see with it, not having installed it, is that it is 1/2 inch longer than the S hook, so although it would fit on the swivel, is the same diameter as the S hook and allow the bag loop to just fit, it will change the rebound timing. Granted, I wonder if I'd notice, but I don't want to increase length.
Also, I like the way the S hook allows the bag's loop to rest on a flat surface so the loop has equal pull pressure. With the carabiner, the loop will rest on a U-shape which will put more pull at the extreme sides of the loop rather than throughout.
Again, will any of this make a noticeable difference in the whole scheme of things, I doubt it but it would bug me mentally, and I'm already mentally bugged enough.
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Originally posted by atgatt View Postsparrky, I have a stainless steel carabiner shaped like the red one you show on the bottle, so it is symmetrical in shape. It also has the steel as the same diameter of my S hook. The problem I see with it, not having installed it, is that it is 1/2 inch longer than the S hook, so although it would fit on the swivel, is the same diameter as the S hook and allow the bag loop to just fit, it will change the rebound timing. Granted, I wonder if I'd notice, but I don't want to increase length.
Also, I like the way the S hook allows the bag's loop to rest on a flat surface so the loop has equal pull pressure. With the carabiner, the loop will rest on a U-shape which will put more pull at the extreme sides of the loop rather than throughout.
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[QUOTE=atgatt;17402]sparrky, I have a stainless steel carabiner shaped like the red one you show on the bottle, so it is symmetrical in shape. It also has the steel as the same diameter of my S hook. The problem I see with it, not having installed it, is that it is 1/2 inch longer than the S hook, so although it would fit on the swivel, is the same diameter as the S hook and allow the bag loop to just fit, it will change the rebound timing. Granted, I wonder if I'd notice, but I don't want to increase length.
Also, I like the way the S hook allows the bag's loop to rest on a flat surface so the loop has equal pull pressure. With the carabiner, the loop will rest on a U-shape which will put more pull at the extreme sides of the loop rather than throughout.
Again, will any of this make a noticeable difference in the whole scheme of things, I doubt it but it would bug me mentally, and I'm already mentally bugged enough. [/QUOTE
Actually the strain on the loop isn't bad it keeps it place it's kind of snug.Yes it is longer,that was one of the things I wanted to try (watchin Skunk use his carabiner). It is very forgiving on miss hits cause God knows I still have a lot of those. Overall I really like the set up. I just wish they would hold up a little longer. I'm headed to lowes later to look at S hooks. Where would I find carabiners to try???
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[QUOTE=sparrky37;17413]Originally posted by atgatt View Postsparrky, I have a stainless steel carabiner shaped like the red one you show on the bottle, so it is symmetrical in shape. It also has the steel as the same diameter of my S hook. The problem I see with it, not having installed it, is that it is 1/2 inch longer than the S hook, so although it would fit on the swivel, is the same diameter as the S hook and allow the bag loop to just fit, it will change the rebound timing. Granted, I wonder if I'd notice, but I don't want to increase length.
Also, I like the way the S hook allows the bag's loop to rest on a flat surface so the loop has equal pull pressure. With the carabiner, the loop will rest on a U-shape which will put more pull at the extreme sides of the loop rather than throughout.
Again, will any of this make a noticeable difference in the whole scheme of things, I doubt it but it would bug me mentally, and I'm already mentally bugged enough. [/QUOTE
Actually the strain on the loop isn't bad it keeps it place it's kind of snug.Yes it is longer,that was one of the things I wanted to try (watchin Skunk use his carabiner). It is very forgiving on miss hits cause God knows I still have a lot of those. Overall I really like the set up. I just wish they would hold up a little longer. I'm headed to lowes later to look at S hooks. Where would I find carabiners to try???
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