There's someone else like me (and my one-way swivel). I'm not alone any more.
My swivel - shoulda patented it.
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Originally posted by PunchDrummer View PostThere's someone else like me (and my one-way swivel). I'm not alone any more.
http://shop.boundboxing.com/Cleto-Re...l-Bearing.html
Heres the same one on Ebay . The one Cleto reyes makes rotates in all directions, just like the u-bolt design, except with a chain link though. I bought two of them a couple years ago to aleviate the problem of the speed bag NOT laying flat on the narrow U-bolt design, but never winded up using them anyway.
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Originally posted by PunchDrummer View PostThere's someone else like me (and my one-way swivel). I'm not alone any more.
http://shop.boundboxing.com/Cleto-Re...l-Bearing.html
Patents are a rich-man's game...they really do nothing unless you have the money & legal staff to go after the infringers.Art of the Bag - A Speed Bag Story
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A patent cost about 10 grand and takes several years to process...assuming it is awarded...a lot of money spent and no guarantee of an award...you'd have to sell a lot swivels to just break even...
Good example...look at the "cleto reyes" vs "first rate" platforms...very similar concept of cantilever bean style platform with screw jack height adjustment...I know that "first rate" has applied for a patent...not sure if cleto reyes has a patent, but if he did, it would be difficult for first rate to show an improvement over cleto design...
here is patent info for first rate http://www.google.com/patents/US20120238415
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Originally posted by Bag-A-Holic View PostHeres the same one on Ebay. The one Cleto reyes makes rotates in all directions, just like the u-bolt design, except with a chain link though. I bought two of them a couple years ago to aleviate the problem of the speed bag NOT laying flat on the narrow U-bolt design, but never winded up using them anyway.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181067781649...84.m1555.l2649Speed Bag
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Originally posted by Zaza View Post"One-way swivel"...what does that mean? Doesn't it spin?
Patents are a rich-man's game...they really do nothing unless you have the money & legal staff to go after the infringers.
Years ago he sent me private video's of his equipment and how he did it, creating his "pole attached setup" and locking method on the swivel.
Too bad you can't get to florida to do some interviews. Ernie Oriente and Rocky Greiner live pretty close to each other in the Sarasota area.Last edited by Speedbag; 01-29-2013, 11:06 AM.Speed Bag
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I have SO much interview now I'm overflowing!Art of the Bag - A Speed Bag Story
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Originally posted by Zaza View PostI have SO much interview now I'm overflowing!
when your cups runeth over, get bigger cups.
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Originally posted by Bag-A-Holic View PostYeah , I was wondering what "ONE WAY" meant too. The Cleto shown, spins freely.
BTW: Zip ties will saw-away at the loop.
And Weebles wobble but they won't fall down.
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Originally posted by PunchDrummer View PostSlightly similar thing with string and rotating eyelets, except the string (or zip-ties) have more twist and give more unexpected rebounds which (IMHO) adds extra challenge if you like banging your head against the proverbial wall.
Scissorhands is great on a U-bolt, I really should try that type swivel one day.
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Originally posted by PunchDrummer View PostMine spins just like you'd expect (i.e. the Cleto), but the bag doesn't like to change directions unless you also encourage the orientation of the swivel at the same time - if that makes any sense. Slightly similar thing with string and rotating eyelets, except the string (or zip-ties) have more twist and give more unexpected rebounds which (IMHO) adds extra challenge if you like banging your head against the proverbial wall.
BTW: Zip ties will saw-away at the loop.
And Weebles wobble but they won't fall down.
With the orientation on the right ("U" facing away), the bag will not react well front to back (may slip down the bar and loss friction) but will work fine sideways.
Originally posted by paranday View Post...Scissorhands is great on a U-bolt, I really should try that type swivel one day.
And you might also notice, he does one or two quick, definitive side double punches (SDP) or Side Triple Elbow Strikes (S-TES), but he does not maintain them or do repetitively complicated combinations using the sides of the bag. Yep, he hits fast, hard, accurate and his patented spin elbows that are amazing, but his combination punching patterns are not heavily side "front-side", "reverse-side" or "side-reverse" intensive. A quick hit, then out. Most of his repetitive linking is really front to back. When his speed and "rhythm" changes a bit, up or down, IMO it is due to the swivel needed to changes it's orientation back to put the "U" facing directly toward the next punch.
As you watch this videoclip, watch the swivel orientation of the "U" and you will see how it does effect speed and accuracy of rebound. I know this swivel is he personal choice for he feels it is faster than a ballhook, and he loves to go fast, not necessarily complicated.Last edited by Speedbag; 01-29-2013, 07:16 PM.Speed Bag
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RE: Scissorhands video TC: 0:25
The day I have the energy to run up to my platform and jump onto the mat like that will be the day I will learn spinning elbows without falling over. Eating my Wheaties in preparation.
Keen observations Alan!
BTW: I finally tried my Everlast ball-carabiner swivel. Short video to come.
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