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Originally posted by goju View Post.... I started off watching skunk on youtube but damn, he hits to fast to keep up with what he is doing.. Its nice to see other baggers that are a bit slower than skunk then you can kind of see whats going on lol
Originally posted by metaldad View PostI got home from work this morning and decided to try working on some more triple elbows:
(That means GOOD! plus I wanted to show off the new SPEED BAG SMILIE)
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Originally posted by goju View Postwell i shall probably get it after my wedding in 2 weeks.. money is a bit tight at the mo.. I started off watching skunk on youtube but damn, he hits to fast to keep up with what he is doing.. Its nice to see other baggers that are a bit slower than skunk then you can kind of see whats going on lol
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Originally posted by metaldad View PostI'm sorry, I thought you had it already, if you can, get it.
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Originally posted by goju View PostThanks mate, i really need to get my hands on alans book. There is only so much you can learn from watching vids here and on youtube.
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Thanks mate, i really need to get my hands on alans book. There is only so much you can learn from watching vids here and on youtube.
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Originally posted by Speedbag View PostOK. Most of your right arm leading O-TES (Right Elbow - Right Fist - Left Fist) break down because your right fist (lead fist in the technique) is slipping down the front of the bag. I think it's because your arcing your arm angle downward instead of keeping the elbow up bring that fist "straight" into the bag, rather than grazing it in a downward slice. It happens a lot in this video.
I would suggest you try doing some Outward Double Elbow Strikes with both arms to clean up and solidify that lead fist contact. Try this with each arm.
(O-DES) ' ' ' (O-DES) ' ' ' (O-DES) ' ' (RSP) ' ' (O-DES) ' ' '...repeat.
this practice combo will do three things for you: First, clean up your lead fist contact after the outward elbow, and second, help you learn to link that lead fist off the elbow strike. You have to keep the elbow "UP" to make this easier. If your elbow is down, you will probably make that RSP contact "under" the belly and drive the bag up into the swivel. Listen for that clanging sound. Third, it will help you learn to go from a RSP to the outward elbow movement.
You can also leave it behind the bag to do a few RSP before continuing this combination.
hope it helps. Great progress by the way
Originally posted by spinsmashpop View PostGood job Metaldad! You are getting smoother overall!
I read what Speedbag wrote while I was noticing the same thing...
It seems like you can point and extend your elbows out a bit more ....
Overall, focus on keeping them up more....
Alan Kahn also breaks it down with a very simplistic view....
The first part of the D-TES is downward double elbow strike than a simple FSP.... so do a bunch of D-DES's and then throw in a follow up FSP....
That way you are not thinking about the last hit of the TES predominantly and letting the 2nd of the 3 hits get by without much attention....
Have you worked on repetitive double elbow strikes (with 2 rebounds in between) with one arm only?
It is a real good exercise and gets you all warmed up when tackling the D and O TES's....
When punch drumming in straight 4/4 time, you can easily replace a FDP with an O or D DES.... it has the same sound and places you in the same part of the beat.... this is not the same for the Triples...
So, getting the DES's together is crucial to getting the TESs....
BAG ON!
Originally posted by goju View Postwhat is that your doing with your fists at 19 - 21 ? ( the left and right motion )
and what part of the fists are you hitting the bag ? Another good vid MD
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what is that your doing with your fists at 19 - 21 ? ( the left and right motion )
and what part of the fists are you hitting the bag ? Another good vid MD
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Good job Metaldad! You are getting smoother overall!
I read what Speedbag wrote while I was noticing the same thing...
It seems like you can point and extend your elbows out a bit more ....
Overall, focus on keeping them up more....
Alan Kahn also breaks it down with a very simplistic view....
The first part of the D-TES is downward double elbow strike than a simple FSP.... so do a bunch of D-DES's and then throw in a follow up FSP....
That way you are not thinking about the last hit of the TES predominantly and letting the 2nd of the 3 hits get by without much attention....
Have you worked on repetitive double elbow strikes (with 2 rebounds in between) with one arm only?
It is a real good exercise and gets you all warmed up when tackling the D and O TES's....
When punch drumming in straight 4/4 time, you can easily replace a FDP with an O or D DES.... it has the same sound and places you in the same part of the beat.... this is not the same for the Triples...
So, getting the DES's together is crucial to getting the TESs....
BAG ON!
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OK. Most of your right arm leading O-TES (Right Elbow - Right Fist - Left Fist) break down because your right fist (lead fist in the technique) is slipping down the front of the bag. I think it's because your arcing your arm angle downward instead of keeping the elbow up bring that fist "straight" into the bag, rather than grazing it in a downward slice. It happens a lot in this video.
I would suggest you try doing some Outward Double Elbow Strikes with both arms to clean up and solidify that lead fist contact. Try this with each arm.
(O-DES) ' ' ' (O-DES) ' ' ' (O-DES) ' ' (RSP) ' ' (O-DES) ' ' '...repeat.
this practice combo will do three things for you: First, clean up your lead fist contact after the outward elbow, and second, help you learn to link that lead fist off the elbow strike. You have to keep the elbow "UP" to make this easier. If your elbow is down, you will probably make that RSP contact "under" the belly and drive the bag up into the swivel. Listen for that clanging sound. Third, it will help you learn to go from a RSP to the outward elbow movement.
You can also leave it behind the bag to do a few RSP before continuing this combination.
hope it helps. Great progress by the wayLast edited by Speedbag; 09-12-2009, 09:38 PM.
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