Originally posted by Jake
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The other possibility is your are double bumping that Inward Elbow. Think about it, If your Inward elbow makes good solid contact, and you hold it at that position, the bag will hit the board and come back down into the elbow again. That Would be the classic double bump. I noticed you did that easily with an outward elbow and also a downward elbow. Yeah, I saw that. nice move.
Originally posted by Jake
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Originally posted by Jake
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But in actuality, I think you are correct. In my opinion there could be slight variations to the exact distance the bag travels to the board after any single individual contact, and that would depend on two factors, (1) at what point in the rebound you make contact and (2) the direction the bag is going to go after that strike.
Consider #1, the point of the rebound. Once the bag hits the board if swings downward, passes a center point and then swings upward to the other side. Where your hit it in that distance, and the angle the bag is within that rebound could slightly vary the distance it has to go to the board for its next contact.
Consider a Front First Roll (F-Roll). Normally you will lean in and the next rolling fist will hit the bag about half way between the board and the straight position under the swivel. But if you don't lean in, and make contact when the bag is actually straight under the swivel, perhaps 1/4 or 1/2 of an inch further away from the board when your next fist hits, the bag will have to travel just a smidge further to get back to the board. It is not uncommon to see beginners contact point "wander around" within the rebound angle, and this reveals itself in slight mis-hits, when the fist arrives just a bit early and slips off the bag or arrives a bit late hitting underneath the belly or the classic "swivel jammed" upward clang. That is due to where the bag was contacted within the rebound. Beginners, actually most of us, will sense the mis-hit and slightly adjust fist speed or punch force to compensate for the error your eyes or ears tell you just happened.
Consider #2, the direction the bag is going on the next strike.
Again, consider Front Fist Rolling (F-Roll). If your are going to change direction of the next strike, say do any of the three Reverse Punches, then your forward rolling fist hits the bag, which now travels the full rebound arc, hits the board in front and travels back down before you hit it again. That was a much further distance than it travelled between punches in the Front Fist Roll.
Now for your issue specifically, about an OUTWARD elbow contact after an inward Elbow contact making the bag swing a bit further, I believe that would depend on the angle the bag travelled after the inward elbow (it could vary depending on where on the bag the inward elbow made contact. that always affects the rebound angle) and that will also affect the angle the bag travels downward after it hits the board. So, now the bag is coming off the board, and the distance it has to travel after your Outward elbow connects will again depend on what point you make contact in that downward rebound arc. I notice this varies with some people who can pull it off. Normally the bag is pretty straight under the swivel when the returning outward elbow hit, and this will send the bag more to the side of the board. But you can also have your outward Elbow contact the bag a bit late in that rebound, when the bag is slightly past straight and now angled a bit upward already. At this point, if you hold a moment, the bag will make a second rebound off the front of the board, and your INWARD - OUTWARD will happen on Two rebounds. But if the bag has slightly passed the center and is angled upward and your outwardly moving elbow makes contact, (after that one rebound..) then the bag angle from this contact will not really be to the side of the board, but more towards the "front-side" of the board. the distance it has to travel from one angle or the other may vary a bit. We're talking very small distances here, but those differences will show up and reveal themselves by how people adjust "the next strike", because you can't call the last one you made back. It's gone.
But the fact that you are noticing that within your own punching shows great insight into what's happening with your own punching style. Everybody has their own.
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