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Originally posted by ninja420 View Post
Naw just kidding man great work and its awesome to watch your progress. I like your style smooth and controlled.
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Originally posted by ninja420 View Post
Was that some side split fist I saw around the :35 marK? Pretty neat, that technique never occurred to me.
You've got the downward elbows going pretty good. You could try some inward elbows, you don't seem to use those much. You're transition to the side punching could be a little cleaner (not a harsh criticism - I'm working on that too).
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Thanks for all the kind words guys. And special thanks to Tim I will start my practicing of inward elbows. The side split fist Im shure I saw on a Skunk video once. And the R-roll I am very proud of. I worked pretty diligently to get that into my repitua. One more thing tim do you know of a video where I can see some good inward elbows?
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Originally posted by Tim View PostVery impressive. You are looking very smooth, good transitions, minimal breakdowns. you've come quite a far way in a short time! Great R-ROLL too.
Was that some side split fist I saw around the :35 marK? Pretty neat, that technique never occurred to me.
You've got the downward elbows going pretty good. You could try some inward elbows, you don't seem to use those much. You're transition to the side punching could be a little cleaner (not a harsh criticism - I'm working on that too).
First off, Ninja does a lot of what I call "rotating the fists", which is changing the fist order of a Front to Reverse Double Punch Sequence. Normally, you do a Front Double Punch (FDP) to Reverse Double Punch (RDP) with an opposite fist order, so the FDP may be L-R, and the RDP would be R-L. that happens if you stick your fists straight out and bring them straight back, which is the easiest way to do it, so it looks like:
L-R ' ' R-L
You can purposely rotate that fist order by making the same fist lead the next double punch, so the L-R fist order remains the same. Do a FDP in L-R contacts, then flip the left fist back to lead the RDP, so the "rotated" order is
L-R ' ' L-R
It can get complicated if you do it a lot, and Ninja does it almost every time, on both sides of the bag. Whether you do this intentionally or accidently, It shows great control of the fists to continually pull it off. And it allows you to do a few combinations others will find impossible to duplicate unless they see the subtle change of fist order, which always changes the fist or elbow sequence afterward.
For the Side Punching sequence, watch closely at 27 sec. and you will see Right fist pass through (Front Circle Punch (FCP) to Reverse Single Punch (RSP) [the RSP connects on frame 00:28:02]) followed by three double punches, FDP ' ' RDP ' ' FDP, all rotated. Using my own abbreviations, here is what it looks like:
RSP ' ' FDP ' ' RDP ' ' FDP ' ' RSP ' ' SSP ' ' SDPx6 sequence.
After the first RSP with the Right Fist, the first FDP would normally be led with that right fist, but Ninja likes to change the order, so he follows that R_RSP with a L-R_ FDP, and keeps that same fist order (rotating) for the 3 double punches. The fist order is:
R ' ' L-R ' ' L-R ' ' L-R ' ' L ' ' R ' ' SDPx6
In the RSP ' ' SSP, (happens at fames 00:29:25 - 00:30:08), it's hard to pick up because both fists pass through to behind the bag after that second FDP. You would think he is going to do another RDP, but this is the slight of hand which, If you watch and listen close, reveals his Right fist, (the second fist in the second FDP above), goes out to the side of the bag (away from the camera) as his left fist returns to lead what you think is a RDP, but it is not, - he does a Reverse Single Punch (RSP) followed by the Right Fist SSP after TWO rebounds. That is how he did this:
FDP ' ' RSP ' ' SSP ' ' SDPx6
This SSP can follow a RSP after an even or Odd number of rebounds, and it only takes a bit of control on the punchers part to decide if you want to use 1,2,3 rebounds.
Now, NINJA, for you to advance your combo a bit, simple let that RSP ' ' SSP sequence happen after one 1 rebound, making this a Reverse-Side Double Punch (R-SDP). It is a very slight difference but makes a great combo. You can see and hear it on this video clip, starting at 13 sec, looking at the camera, just before the camera angles changes. I'm doing 5 or 6 single fist (Right fist, left on screen) pass throughs, and the I do a couple of L-R (R-SDP). Just after that, I cut to a behind the back shot angle.
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My only other observation is the very low position of your elbows on the SDP sequence. It may be natural to you this way, but I think you will find it much more functional to keep the elbows up in the same plane you use when Front Fist Rolling. This will allow the fists to pass through to any area on a straight plane of movement, not arching up and down as yours do with the elbows low. The fists will normally seek the level of your elbows. At least mine do.
And I notice you don't use the Inward Elbows either, but I forgive you on that one. They never really excited me that much because you can't link a fist off them. Your downwards are VERY nice. The outwards are tough for those with a big barrel chest so you might want to turn your torso a bit more on the setup to give yourself a better angle.
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I hope this made sense. Great Job, Ninja. I'm very happy with your progress.Speed Bag
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Originally posted by ninja420 View PostOne more thing tim do you know of a video where I can see some good inward elbows?
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Originally posted by Speedbag View PostActually, Tim, you did see a six punch Side to Side split fist combo, but you may have missed the most interesting - and kinda strange transition into the Side punching sequence. Being one to write down speed bag combinations, especially when I'm not sure exactly what happened with the fists or number of rebounds that occured, I like to watch video's in SLOW motion to get a better perspective. This one had me stumped at that sequence, so I downloaded it and watched it back frame by frame.
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Originally posted by Tim View PostYou're right I sure didn't see it... my eyes and ears can't follow along with most full speed videos. Thanks for the tip on the slo-mo , I'll need to do that more in the future.
I can usually download a clip, drop it into Sony Vegas and watch it in frame by frame advance.Speed Bag
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Wow Speedbag thanks for all your interest in my video and the great write up. And the funny part is I knew what you were talking about And I will work on all those things you talked about. Tim great video thanks. Tim when are you going to do a all out speedbag video with all your moves tide in together? mabey with some music I would pay the price of admition to see that video. And one more thing while Im typing... where is Kevdawg and billymack? I miss those guys.
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Originally posted by ninja420 View PostWow Speedbag thanks for all your interest in my video and the great write up. And the funny part is I knew what you were talking about And I will work on all those things you talked about. Tim great video thanks. Tim when are you going to do a all out speedbag video with all your moves tide in together? mabey with some music I would pay the price of admition to see that video. And one more thing while Im typing... where is Kevdawg and billymack? I miss those guys.
I too miss their insights and punching skills. Both are very talented speedbaggers.Speed Bag
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Originally posted by ninja420 View PostTim when are you going to do a all out speedbag video with all your moves tide in together? mabey with some music I would pay the price of admition to see that video.
The other reason I don't put it all together into one great performance is that I'm really not that good... i can't transition between all that stuff smoothly and the clip would be more akin to a demo of bag breakdowns I'm generally lucky if I can punch for more than 30 seconds without a breakdown... which probably means I'm focused on speed too much!
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